Tibetan/Chinese Coin?

Hello,
Interesting item with vague description has my interest. Said to be Tibetan currency, pre-1940's, and made of silver and copper. No further data. I would appreciate any information to help me research it.

Thank you,
Dan

It's an Annamese (Vietnamese) lang coin.

These are very rare. You're very lucky to have one.

Good morning Kenny,
Thank you for identification. Would you please suggest a reference or website that would help me to find more detailed history/info on coin; its' catalog number, translation of symbols/legends, rarity rating, mint, auction records, value, etc.?
Regards,
Dan

It's from the Tu Duc era, 1860's.

Thanks Kenny,
You've been extremely helpful. I found one, almost identical, from 1862 with generous amount of additional information.
Regards,
Dan

Hello,
Since you were able to give me a direction to look into, I have found a silver bar coin in a collection with this information:

'1862'... Nguyen Dynasty (1802-1945 D), Emperor Tu Duc (1848-1883 D), silver bar coin, 1 Quan, Obverse: 'Tu Duc Nien Yao' (Tu Duc Year Mint), Reverse: 'Gia Tien Nhat Quan' (priced one quan).

The symbols appearing on my image to the left are identical to those appearing on located coin, but only the two (2) middle images appearing on the second photo above match. (I am assuming my first photo is of Obverse.)
Would anyone be able to interpret and translate these images?
Thank you,
Dan

You might wish to read about Vietnamese silver bars at Zeno Oriental Coins Database
http://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=4435
including some translations
http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=31341
Since these are scarce, I would advise to consult with specialists in this particular coinage and make sure that yours is original. Zeno would be optimal for that, but you need to be registered. If you provide me with vertically oriented images (like you can see at Zeno) of obverse, reverse and edges, as well as exact size (three sides) and weight, I could post your coin at Zeno and ask about it.

Audrey,
Thank you for info.
I will work on providing you with vertical images. I've little personal experience with images and internet. My son helps me with those. He'll be out of town until end of March, but as soon as he gets back we'll work on that. And, thank you for your generous offer in assisting.
Regards,
Dan

Audrey,
That is an excellent site link for silver bar coins... images and information. I will get into it in much detail. Again, thank you,
Dan

You are welcome, Dan, though my name is Andrey, not Audrey.

Hepburn, right?

Andrey,
I do apologize. At 69 my eyes are not like they use to be.
Dan

Anyone have opinion as to value?
Thanks,
Dan

No less than a hundred, I can guarantee that.

I'll try to get around adding this coin to Numista for you.

Thanks, Dan

Dan,
Could you provide weight and dimensions, as I asked above?
Andrey

Hi Andrey,

Sorry, I don't have scale, and rarely get out except for hospital stay. I may be able to ask someone to get it weighed for me.
The listing offered it's length at 6.2 cm, and it's width as 2.5 cm. Closest I could measure was just a hair over 2.5" X 1".

I hope this helps.
Regards,
Dan

Dan,
Have you read this words in item's description?
"My all item are not antique ,They are all art ."

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Asian-Old-Collectibles-Handwork-Tibet-Silver-White-Copper-One-Dollar-/271157532298?pt=UK_Antiques_Asian_Oriental_Antiques_ET&hash=item3f223f968a

Don't hope against hope: when a seller says this, the item could not be an authentic coin. It is an original artwork of his. The seller just covered himself from a legal point of view. I am practically sure that he will not accept a return and will drag his feet in order not to allow the buyer to use eBay buyer protection means in time.

I no longer need the measurements and withdraw my offer to put this item in my name at a reputable website.

Andrey

At the bottom it says "Original" in the category Original/Rep. So it's likely to be real.

If this was truly a fake, I'd be stumped.

"Original" refers to "art" only, which is indeed original, not to the coin. The original coin should be silver. A piece of silver that big cannot have a price tag of GBP 9.49.
What metal is "white copper" by the way?

Andrey, Kenny
Those phrases are part of description! In fact, I was about to bid on three additional items from same  'Seller' (two coins and another coin bar), all have same descriptive phrases including 'post-1940'. I emailed 'Seller' yesterday in regards to one of the coins listed with the 'post-1940' after I realized its on all his items (thought it was mistake on original  listing). He avoided my question, and only referred to coin as a 'Commemorative'.
I'm holding off any further dealings with 'Seller'.
My son is coming towards end of month, I'll have him get it weighed and tested for silver grade. Should that information assist in determining if its fake or authentic?
I truly am novice at this 'coin' collecting hobby.
Kenny... I hope you're correct, but I'm leaning towards Andrey's conclusions.
I'll relay any new info.
Thank you both,
Dan
('white copper' is a copper-nickel alloy also referred to as 'German silver'.)

Hi,
Research results... I believe the terms 'Tibet Silver' and 'White Copper', as applied to my so-called silver bar coin, are equivalent to 'worthless' and 'valueless'. End of story. I think own pretty paper-weight.

Hard for me to imagine...
'Seller' operates on Ebay under 'old-china' with 1242 transactions and a 100% Feedback Rating.
Go figure?

Thanks guys,
Dan

Guys,

河南省 - 郑州 is where the seller is comming from... raises doubts about Chinese fakes... (heads up_ beware).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Collectible-Old-Handwork-White-Copper-Tibet-silver-Qing-Dynasty-Dollar-Statue-/400422097586?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14587%26meid%3D6041723656023104704%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D3%26sd%3D271157532298%26

^look...

15turtles,
Correct link... as you can see, coin described as post-1940, white-copper, and Tibet silver.

How can any store maintain a 99% positive Feedback rating with over 2200 transactions, if they are selling fakes/forgeries? I don't get it?

Dan

Цитата: dandelatorreHow can any store maintain a 99% positive Feedback rating with over 2200 transactions, if they are selling fakes/forgeries? I don't get it?

Because the buyers don't know any better.

Good that you contacted us first. 15turtles knows much more about China than I do; I'm only Japanese.

Nein... not possible that any of those coins are post-1940...

Guys, look in the description

My all item are not antique ,They are all art .

Proof here... it's fake; not real.

Thanks to all.
Dan