Suriname 5 cent 1966 with a straight(?) privy mark

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Dear fellow numismatists,

The 1966 coin of the Suriname 5 cent KM# 12.1 has multiple variants. Short 6, long 6, straight privy mark, slanted privy mark. Which variant did I find in a bulk lot I bought? Let me know your thoughts :-)



Cheers,
They say "Pecunia non olet", but I know better...
I believe there is an error in the catalog and it is a bit confusing. I believe the mintage should read 2,300,000 next to the "Fish. short 6, slanted privy mark such as your 1966 coin and the example shown on the Numista page. The privy mark is definitely not straight in either case and as Ole mentions in his comment on the page," he has never seen a 1966 with a straight privy mark". So why is the mintage figures next to that and exactly why so many people catalog theirs as having the straight privy mark?
Just look at my documentation in numista

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/images/miniatures/5c90da5d04298.jpg

it's in the link you gave for the coin:x
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
If I look at Ole's documentation, I'd be inclined to call Steven's coin a straight privy, as it points at the bottom of the T. The slanted privy on the coin page clearly points halfway the leg of the T.

Though I do admit the privy on Steven's coin is slightly slanted, but so is the coin ;)
Just call me Bram

No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!
It's clearly slanted.
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Цитата: "Sjoelund"​It's clearly slanted.
​Not as clearly as on your pictures, so maybe a hybrid? :°
Just call me Bram

No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!
Цитата: "Sjoelund"​It's clearly slanted.
Look at the comparison. It might be a little bit slanted, but not clearly as you state...

They say "Pecunia non olet", but I know better...
Congratulations:) you have found another variant, look at the 6's one has long necs and the other short ones.
Try to make macro images and you shall see???? Are the two 66 coins yours? That is certainly another die, and thus the slant is invoked when the die change was done. What do you think?
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Цитата: "Sjoelund"​Congratulations:) you have found another variant, look at the 6's one has long necs and the other short ones.
​Try to make macro images and you shall see???? Are the two 66 coins yours? That is certainly another die, and thus the slant is invoked when the die change was done. What do you think?
​The one with the blue background is mine, the other picture comes from the internet. Am I right in understanding that this one is different than the variants mentioned on the coin's page? What do you mean by 'try making macro images and you shall see???'
They say "Pecunia non olet", but I know better...
Isn't it then the "Fish; Long 6, straight privy mark" already in the catalogue?
Just call me Bram

No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!
Цитата: "BramVB"​Isn't it then the "Fish; Long 6, straight privy mark" already in the catalogue?

​Sure is, but now it can documented correctly, quite often you find year lines, without no proof, so now document it, please or send me the images and I can set it up for you.
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Are these sufficient?

They say "Pecunia non olet", but I know better...
probably, but where is the image of the other type of 6s? I need both to describe a variant of the 6s, right?

Take care
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
BTW are they coin or medal alignment ... on catawiki one with straight straight privy was sold as being medal alignment ...
https://www.catawiki.nl/l/27111091-suriname-5-cent-1966-3-verschillende-o-a-medailleslag

PS Ole, you could use the coin on the coin page (it has the short 6) in your docu
Just call me Bram

No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!
Цитата: "BramVB"​BTW are they coin or medal alignment ... on catawiki one with straight straight privy was sold as being medal alignment ...
https://www.catawiki.nl/l/27111091-suriname-5-cent-1966-3-verschillende-o-a-medailleslag

​PS Ole, you could use the coin on the coin page (it has the short 6) in your docu
​Today I'm lazy, golf in the morning and 38° in the afternoon, so I ask people to participate and then I do some magic with the imagesX-D:P No, really today is out for me as a working day8)
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Just call me Bram

No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!
Цитата: "BramVB"
https://www.catawiki.nl/l/27111091-suriname-5-cent-1966-3-verschillende-o-a-medailleslag
is no longer there???
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Цитата: "Sjoelund"​​https://www.catawiki.nl/l/27111091-suriname-5-cent-1966-3-verschillende-o-a-medailleslag
​is no longer there???
​Scroll down a bit to see the original posting (beware! it's in Dutch ;) )
Just call me Bram

No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!
Цитата: "BramVB"
Цитата: "Sjoelund"​​https://www.catawiki.nl/l/27111091-suriname-5-cent-1966-3-verschillende-o-a-medailleslag
​​is no longer there???
​​Scroll down a bit to see the original posting (beware! it's in Dutch ;) )
​Stoert mir nicht. With Danish and German I understand it quite well! Thanks for the advice, but I suppose I can't use those images, but one comment I have to let loose. Both mints are slanted (more or less) and the middle has marks, but no coin from 1966 has a vertical, it obviously came in 1973, but the guy who set up the year lines were probably full of Genever:8D
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Цитата: "smvdbrink"​Dear fellow numismatists,

​The 1966 coin of the Suriname 5 cent KM# 12.1 has multiple variants. Short 6, long 6, straight privy mark, slanted privy mark. Which variant did I find in a bulk lot I bought? Let me know your thoughts :-)



​Cheers, Steven

​Long 6's slanted 10°, try to see the documentation I'm just working upon, will come in a few minutes.
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com


Here is mvdbrink's privy mark, maybe you now understand why I need the best possible resulution for my documentations. Can you make a better hi-res image of the coin again, please?



A part from that, the straight privy mark , I think, doesn't exist in 1966, do you agree to that? If I get a better image of the 10° coin I'll use it in the documentation0:).

Please give me your feed-back.

Take care guys
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Very nice as always Ole. Maybe an extra addition is the coin orientation.

I don't own any 1966 coins, but according to the catawiki sale the long 6's coin was medal alignment,while the other 2 were coin alignment. Can everyone check out their 1966 coins for alignment?
Just call me Bram

No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!
It's coin alignment. I can't get higher quality than this:

Front
Back

Is that sufficient?
They say "Pecunia non olet", but I know better...

Better now?
Images sent were perfect, thanks
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Apart from the name at the top - it is Suriname not Surinam
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
I think the quality of the image I posted is better than what is shown in the documentation. Did you upload the wrong picture? And indeed, it's Suriname instead of Surinam :)
They say "Pecunia non olet", but I know better...
Цитата: "smvdbrink"​I think the quality of the image I posted is better than what is shown in the documentation. Did you upload the wrong picture? And indeed, it's Suriname instead of Surinam :)
​Right, I had some problems with save as....

This is the result, but have a look here: http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,19055.0.html

Strange, one variant more?
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Ole, the standard for this type seems to be coin alignment. So there might even be five types (if the info on catawiki and worldofcoins is correct):

long 6 + mintmarks + coin (smvdbrink + woc)
long6 + mintmarks + medal (catawiki)
normal6 + mintmarks + coin (woc)
normal6 + coin (woc)
normal6 + medal (woc)

Are we there yet? Don't think so X-D
Just call me Bram

No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!
Ok. So back to the design board and the search for the proper hi-res images to show all of them.<:D
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Hi,



What is the opinion about this?
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Looks good to me Ole!
They say "Pecunia non olet", but I know better...
Цитата: "smvdbrink"​Looks good to me Ole!
​OK, I'll make the CR.
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
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