Please help to identify these coin

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France? 0.44 gr. 13.4 mm.



France too? 0.88 gr. 12.8 X 15.8 mm.

Weight and diameter?

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Sorry, weight and diameter is already added.
Here's the first one :)
Messerano – Francesco Filiberto Ferrero Fieschi 1532-1559 Quarto di Soldo
Dino
Thank's
The other one might be from one of the crusader states because of the Jerusalem cross, similar to this:

https://www.catawiki.com/l/8318795-cyprus-crusader-coin-with-jerusalem-cross-15th-century
Dino
If you doubt it is the Jerusalem Cross, but I am intrigued by the obverse with the liz florets and the letter P
First one is a Quarto di Soldo 1st type, Duchy of Savoy
This is the link on numista
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces37400.html

Bourg mint (the right picture should be rotated 90° degrees clockwise)
Yes! Thank's

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