Coin Descriptions on Numista by Tom Babinsky (A Blind Coin Collector)

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Posted byTom May 5, 2021

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If you have followed this blog for a while, you know that for the last few years, I was trying to figure out how to have coins described in great detail for blind people. I have to say, all my ventures have failed. The original idea was that blind people would understand what a coin looks like, particularly features which are impossible to feel by touch. But there were two problems. The first was that I don’t think too many people were interested. The second, I could not find enough people to describe a good number of coins. But I have missed the obvious. There is already such a thing. Though it wasn’t used to the fullest several years ago, but today it seems that it can be the solution. It is the ability to describe coins on Numista. This feature is also helpful for all collectors. At this point, I am ready to give up my original intention to have coins described for blind people, because it is no longer relevant. I will, however, maintain the related posts on the blog, for the sake of historical documentation.
When I started to use online coin catalogs, probably around 2007, there was very little information out there, mostly coin weight, diameter, and a few words of descriptions. But over the years this has changed. I noticed that these days Numista has much more elaborate descriptions. Originally it used to be just keywords, for example, date, value, coat of arm, etc. But these days there is so much more. In fact, so much that those descriptions are often sufficient for blind people to get a sense of what is on a coin and be able to do further research.
But why is this relevant to most collectors? Obviously, the purpose of a coin catalog is not to provide sufficient information for blind people. But just like many other things, what is necessary for a group of people, it can be a benefit to others.
The reason why detailed coin descriptions can help collectors is because it makes the catalog so much more searchable. The more detailed a description is, the more ways people can look for coins without having any background knowledge. And this can be anything, a keyword, a topic, name of a king, etc. Over the years, Numista included other ways of describing coins, people can add comments, and choose from a list of categories when they describe their coins.
Let’s look at a simple example. Lets say we are looking for coins with elephants. When we search for the word elephant on Numista, today we get 906 results. The result is somewhat deceiving, because it doesn’t mean that the main theme of the coin is an elephant on all 906 coins, for example, one of the results will be the Australian 10 Cents from the Planetary Coins series. Even though the coin does have an elephant, it may not be a coin we are looking for when we are searching for elephants. But this is helpful, and useful, regardless. But if we look at another coin from the results, the Cambodian 20 Riels, it is a much better match. And on this coin, the category is also indicated, which is elephant. Once we follow this category, we get 457 results, where the coin was specifically marked with the elephant category. The big difference between the two result sets maybe that not all coins with an elephant were marked with a category, but for all practical purposes, we have no shortage of coins with elephants. Just imagine without descriptions and categories, what would it take to find coins with elephants. You would probably have to flip through paper catalogs and do complex internet searches.
So what is a good coin description? Lets look at one of my favorite coins, the Portuguese 200 Escudos commemorating the Treaty of Tordesilhas. At the time of this writing, the following information appears on Numista about the 200 Escudos coin: (I did not correct any of the typos)
Obverse

2 ships, map of the Atlantic, Portuguese coat of Arms and value. The vertical line North-south represents the line of demarcation newly defined by the Treaty of Tordesillas (7 June 1494) that mooved the previously defined line by 50 miles to the west. Portuguese expeditions were to stay east of this line, hence the underlined areas on the map of South America, future Brazil, and the Arms of Portugal on the map of Africa.
Lettering:
REPUBLICA PORTUGUESA
200
ESCUDOS
Reverse

Above the name of the treaty that led to moving the line of demarcation (defined by Pope Alexander VI in 1493) between Spanish and Portugueses areas to 370 miles West of the Cap Verde Islands (about 1770 km, 46°30′ West Greenwich). Portraits on the left=West of Isabel de Castilla and Ferdinand II de Aragon, Castillan flag, on the right= East, Joao II king of Portugal and flag.
Lettering:
TRATADO DE TORDESILHAS 1494-1994
FERNANDO·E·ISABEL·REIS·DE·ESPANA
JOÃO II·REI·DE·PORTUGAL
ISABEL C.-F.BRANCO
This is definitely sufficient information to understand what is on the coin. Even though the coat of arms is not described in detail, once we know what it is, we can easily find the Portuguese coat of arms on the internet and since we know the date of the coin, we can narrow it down to what it is.
This particular coin currently doesn’t have anything in the comment section, some information is included in the description, but the comment section is a place where one can provide any relevant information about the coin which is not necessarily part of the description, such as any historical details or interesting facts.
I have to say, this is a dream come true. A few years ago, sometimes I had to do extensive research on coins just to figure out what can be seen on them, today often it is enough to check Numista where I can get enough information to get started. It is a great tool for blind people who would be interested in numismatics. But most importantly, it has evolved to be an excellent tool for anyone who is using the catalog.
I would encourage collectors to contribute to the catalog. If you find that a coin is not listed, or does not have too much information, something is incorrect, you find a typo, or you just know something about it that could be interesting for others, please take a moment and add some information. The site owners made it quite easy. When you display information about a coin, at the bottom you can find a title to contribute to the catalog, under that click “modify or add data”, and you can add all kinds of information. For the first time, it makes sense to read through all the fields you can fill out about a particular coin. Once you submit the information, the moderators check it before the update appears on the site, but usually it doesn’t take too long. Once the update is made, your profile will display how many pages you have contributed to.
If you want to describe a coin which does not exist in the catalog, you can do it here.
For the sake of completeness, since Numista recently added a banknote catalog, all of the above applies to banknotes as well.
Have fun searching Numista, and think about contributing for the sake of all collectors. Also, leave a comment below and tell me about your experience of adding and updating coins.

I have known Tom since years now, and I'm still extremely surprised, how he's making it possible for himselt to collect coins with his enourmous handicap of not being able to see the coins....
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
He has a very relevant point with: "Let’s look at a simple example. Lets say we are looking for coins with elephants. When we search for the word elephant on Numista, today we get 906 results. The result is somewhat deceiving, because it doesn’t mean that the main theme of the coin is an elephant on all 906 coins"

The tags should only reflect the relevant, main, motives. Now it feels like as soon as there's an animal and a tree in the far background, this is included in the tags. If you collect coins with trains, is this really a coin you are looking for?
Have a nice day + I am adding for the third year and I wish you health.

,, Have fun searching Numista, and think about contributing for the sake of all collectors. Also, leave a comment below and tell me about your experience of adding and updating coins.
I have known Tom since years now, and I'm still extremely surprised, how he's making it possible for himselt to collect coins with his enourmous handicap of not being able to see the coins....,,

And I know why. I could have done somersaults three years ago ( I have 13 medical diagnoses, 3x deadly 4 heavy the rest is light) My thank you for saving my life is a medal-coin-a coin that I designed myself, created a story, graphically processed it only coin stamp were created for me according to my design by famous masters from our national mint in Jablonec Nad Nisou.
,,I last gave the coin on Tuesday after the last operation to a nurse who was holding my head in the operating room,,
On Monday, I sent a collector here to a numista -I don't think he knows yet.

Come on, you can reassure your friend "Tom" -I wouldn't give him a hammer to make a coin (although I prefer to mint it as in the Middle Ages), so on my little 3.5 ton car press, would create a coin by pushing one hand into on the press lever.
If I get in touch with him, I'll cut out Tom's coin and send it (I don't have a contact give me the address)
I cast metal, knock it out, and make a coin. I have only one problem that the coin is from an unknown country-but for people who know it, it is a coin of the "Great Moravian Empire"
Thus - either A-4 or A-5 -I give as a gift to doctors, nurses, and good people.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/exonumia228786.html
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic99144.html
https://gorazduv-denar.webnode.cz/

Ahoj Ivan
Цитата: "ngdawa"​"Let’s look at a simple example. Lets say we are looking for coins with elephants. When we search for the word elephant on Numista, today we get 906 results. The result is somewhat deceiving, because it doesn’t mean that the main theme of the coin is an elephant on all 906 coins"

​He's talking about the word "Elephant" in the descriptions, not about the tags. As you can see in one of his examples, that coin doesn't even have a tag:

Цитата: "Sjoelund"​Posted byTom May 5, 2021

https://blindcoincollector.com/2021/05/05/coin-descriptions-on-numista/?fbclid=IwAR1uKK2Soh0cGXsxO6lqXxOcxPSFRqFOxXq0lqINEPUaocNW8hOhAkRCwRc

​Comment on Coin Descriptions on Numista

​If you have followed this blog for a while, you know that for the last few years, I was trying to figure out how to have coins described in great detail for blind people. I have to say, all my ventures have failed. The original idea was that blind people would understand what a coin looks like, particularly features which are impossible to feel by touch. But there were two problems. The first was that I don’t think too many people were interested. The second, I could not find enough people to describe a good number of coins. But I have missed the obvious. There is already such a thing. Though it wasn’t used to the fullest several years ago, but today it seems that it can be the solution. It is the ability to describe coins on Numista. This feature is also helpful for all collectors. At this point, I am ready to give up my original intention to have coins described for blind people, because it is no longer relevant. I will, however, maintain the related posts on the blog, for the sake of historical documentation.
​When I started to use online coin catalogs, probably around 2007, there was very little information out there, mostly coin weight, diameter, and a few words of descriptions. But over the years this has changed. I noticed that these days Numista has much more elaborate descriptions. Originally it used to be just keywords, for example, date, value, coat of arm, etc. But these days there is so much more. In fact, so much that those descriptions are often sufficient for blind people to get a sense of what is on a coin and be able to do further research.
​But why is this relevant to most collectors? Obviously, the purpose of a coin catalog is not to provide sufficient information for blind people. But just like many other things, what is necessary for a group of people, it can be a benefit to others.
​The reason why detailed coin descriptions can help collectors is because it makes the catalog so much more searchable. The more detailed a description is, the more ways people can look for coins without having any background knowledge. And this can be anything, a keyword, a topic, name of a king, etc. Over the years, Numista included other ways of describing coins, people can add comments, and choose from a list of categories when they describe their coins.
​Let’s look at a simple example. Lets say we are looking for coins with elephants. When we search for the word elephant on Numista, today we get 906 results. The result is somewhat deceiving, because it doesn’t mean that the main theme of the coin is an elephant on all 906 coins, for example, one of the results will be the Australian 10 Cents from the Planetary Coins series. Even though the coin does have an elephant, it may not be a coin we are looking for when we are searching for elephants. But this is helpful, and useful, regardless. But if we look at another coin from the results, the Cambodian 20 Riels, it is a much better match. And on this coin, the category is also indicated, which is elephant. Once we follow this category, we get 457 results, where the coin was specifically marked with the elephant category. The big difference between the two result sets maybe that not all coins with an elephant were marked with a category, but for all practical purposes, we have no shortage of coins with elephants. Just imagine without descriptions and categories, what would it take to find coins with elephants. You would probably have to flip through paper catalogs and do complex internet searches.
​So what is a good coin description? Lets look at one of my favorite coins, the Portuguese 200 Escudos commemorating the Treaty of Tordesilhas. At the time of this writing, the following information appears on Numista about the 200 Escudos coin: (I did not correct any of the typos)
​Obverse

​2 ships, map of the Atlantic, Portuguese coat of Arms and value. The vertical line North-south represents the line of demarcation newly defined by the Treaty of Tordesillas (7 June 1494) that mooved the previously defined line by 50 miles to the west. Portuguese expeditions were to stay east of this line, hence the underlined areas on the map of South America, future Brazil, and the Arms of Portugal on the map of Africa.
​Lettering:
​REPUBLICA PORTUGUESA
​200
​ESCUDOS
​Reverse

​Above the name of the treaty that led to moving the line of demarcation (defined by Pope Alexander VI in 1493) between Spanish and Portugueses areas to 370 miles West of the Cap Verde Islands (about 1770 km, 46°30′ West Greenwich). Portraits on the left=West of Isabel de Castilla and Ferdinand II de Aragon, Castillan flag, on the right= East, Joao II king of Portugal and flag.
​Lettering:
​TRATADO DE TORDESILHAS 1494-1994
​FERNANDO·E·ISABEL·REIS·DE·ESPANA
​JOÃO II·REI·DE·PORTUGAL
​ISABEL C.-F.BRANCO
​This is definitely sufficient information to understand what is on the coin. Even though the coat of arms is not described in detail, once we know what it is, we can easily find the Portuguese coat of arms on the internet and since we know the date of the coin, we can narrow it down to what it is.
​This particular coin currently doesn’t have anything in the comment section, some information is included in the description, but the comment section is a place where one can provide any relevant information about the coin which is not necessarily part of the description, such as any historical details or interesting facts.
​I have to say, this is a dream come true. A few years ago, sometimes I had to do extensive research on coins just to figure out what can be seen on them, today often it is enough to check Numista where I can get enough information to get started. It is a great tool for blind people who would be interested in numismatics. But most importantly, it has evolved to be an excellent tool for anyone who is using the catalog.
​I would encourage collectors to contribute to the catalog. If you find that a coin is not listed, or does not have too much information, something is incorrect, you find a typo, or you just know something about it that could be interesting for others, please take a moment and add some information. The site owners made it quite easy. When you display information about a coin, at the bottom you can find a title to contribute to the catalog, under that click “modify or add data”, and you can add all kinds of information. For the first time, it makes sense to read through all the fields you can fill out about a particular coin. Once you submit the information, the moderators check it before the update appears on the site, but usually it doesn’t take too long. Once the update is made, your profile will display how many pages you have contributed to.
​If you want to describe a coin which does not exist in the catalog, you can do it here.
​For the sake of completeness, since Numista recently added a banknote catalog, all of the above applies to banknotes as well.
​Have fun searching Numista, and think about contributing for the sake of all collectors. Also, leave a comment below and tell me about your experience of adding and updating coins.

​I have known Tom since years now, and I'm still extremely surprised, how he's making it possible for himselt to collect coins with his enourmous handicap of not being able to see the coins....
This makes a lot of sense and is indeed great work.
I prefer to see 1-3 lines of information about the person or scene depicted on a note or coin.
Some trivia or something about the background - anything at all to add a bit of completeness. ​
Цитата: "MIMAEL"​Have a nice day + I am adding for the third year and I wish you health.

​,, Have fun searching Numista, and think about contributing for the sake of all collectors. Also, leave a comment below and tell me about your experience of adding and updating coins.
​I have known Tom since years now, and I'm still extremely surprised, how he's making it possible for himselt to collect coins with his enourmous handicap of not being able to see the coins....,,

​ And I know why. I could have done somersaults three years ago ( I have 13 medical diagnoses, 3x deadly 4 heavy the rest is light) My thank you for saving my life is a medal-coin-a coin that I designed myself, created a story, graphically processed it only coin stamp were created for me according to my design by famous masters from our national mint in Jablonec Nad Nisou.
​,,I last gave the coin on Tuesday after the last operation to a nurse who was holding my head in the operating room,,
​On Monday, I sent a collector here to a numista -I don't think he knows yet.

​Come on, you can reassure your friend "Tom" -I wouldn't give him a hammer to make a coin (although I prefer to mint it as in the Middle Ages), so on my little 3.5 ton car press, would create a coin by pushing one hand into on the press lever.
​If I get in touch with him, I'll cut out Tom's coin and send it (I don't have a contact give me the address)
​I cast metal, knock it out, and make a coin. I have only one problem that the coin is from an unknown country-but for people who know it, it is a coin of the "Great Moravian Empire"
Thus - either A-4 or A-5 -I give as a gift to doctors, nurses, and good people.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/exonumia228786.html
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic99144.html
https://gorazduv-denar.webnode.cz/

​Ahoj Ivan

​Great work with your coin press and gifting it to health care workers. Glad you had a successful procedure. Wishing you a quick recovery.
Цитата: "BluHawk"
Цитата: "MIMAEL"​​

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​​Great work with your coin press and gifting it to health care workers. Glad you had a successful procedure. Wishing you a quick recovery.
​Have a nice day and health
thank you for your wishes, I just got back from the hospital -all morning there. In the store and dispensing prescriptions for medicines me a health worker -the older woman kindly taught about the ear drops , that even though it is written there in the eye, so it is in the ear.
For this kind and nice approach, I gave one A-4 with a coin and a description from the lady . the hospital is also in the places to which the legend relates .
I'm glad I can at least express my support.
Thanks and take care of your health is important.
Ahoj Ivan
Please
(If anyone would give me the PM address on "TOMA")
I will contact you privately, I'd also be interested how you create your own coins.
https://BlindCoinCollector.com
Member of WINS, CCC, NBS

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