5 Pesetas 1869 argento verificato con metal detector e calamita. Diametro e spessore ok

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peso 25,45 grammi

grazie

Si e km655.penso che non e una replika.pero non sono sicuro...

The dates in the star looks tampered. The main date 1869 has the 69 a bit weird, especially the 9.

I think is a real coin of 1870 with the dates manipulated to look like a most expensive year.

A image of the date in a good coin

A image of the date in the coin of this post

A image of the star of the good one

A image of the star of this coin


A clumsy manipulation of a real coin to deceive the unwary or to fill a hole in a completist's album.

Цитата: "zegeri"​
​A clumsy manipulation of a real coin to deceive the unwary or to fill a hole in a completist's album.

​Out of curiosity, what real coin could have been manipulated?

Цитата: "rsirian1"​

Цитата: "zegeri"​​
​​A clumsy manipulation of a real coin to deceive the unwary or to fill a hole in a completist's album.
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​​Out of curiosity, what real coin could have been manipulated?

​https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces6722.html

The year 1870 (mintage ~6.000.000) to look 1869 (mintage 100)

Changing the 70 in the star is one thing. Changing the main 1870 date to 1869 is quite another.

Grazie per le risposte.

Scusate la mia insistenza, ma come devo considerare questa moneta ? Vera o falsa ? Di qualche valore ? Grazie

Цитата: "baizeto"​
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​Scusate la mia insistenza, ma come devo considerare questa moneta ? Vera o falsa ? Di qualche valore ? Grazie

​ Excuse my insistence, but how should I consider this coin? True or false? Of any value? Thank you


I agree that it is not genuine. Apart having a questionable weight, this coin is extremely rare with a mintage of only 100 (as zegeri pointed out) thus making it not only very valuable but also making it very attractive for counterfeiters to try and replicate.
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/spain-5-pesetas-km-655-1869-69-1870-70-cuid-1082819-duid-1516984


I don't know if it is a genuine coin that has been altered or a complete fabrication but again I agree with zegeri that the '69' in the date is suspect. It almost looks as though they didn't have a genuine 1869 5 Pesetas coin to copy from so instead they just relied on what the '69' looked like on the 1869 2 Pesetas coin?
https://coinscatalog.net/spain/coin-silver-2-pesetas-km-654-third-decimal-coinage