Ancient Greek bronze 2 [решено]

Hezký den kolegové.

     So I admit that the complete scrap - totally illegible, clean mud and millennial flat mass with excavations somewhere in Asia - I threw in an ultrasonic washing machine.

I won't give it all here either, I've got my head tangled for many days. What can I want to save and the rest will go to the dump of history (boxes).

Everything is the lowest value of currency - small cents today.

Here two and probably also s :SELEUKID KINGDOM   -I will be hosting this kingdom this weekend.

a, bronze

18,84 mm,   4,53g,  Th-2,61 mm

b, bronze

17,51 mm,   4,34g,  Th-2,67 mm

And I don't like that very much, bronze is the most problematic metal for me - under a different inclination of view it is different and they look better in the hand, because one tilts them as one needs a view.

I was sorry to throw them away, I was approached by one in each pile and I took 5 piles (again I succumbed and didn't buy 1 great one from China made of silver and a nice fairy tale-about the coin from the seller)

Thank you for helping me.

Ivan

😊  I try to help. That first picture is small - and it will not click larger. 

It has the word miniatures on the web location. I changed the link to this > 

https://en.numista.com/forum/images/62ad626d30674.png 

 Also I thought they were normal colour coins shown in dark light - 

but yes that darkness is their colour already. I cropped them if it helps anyone > 

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2.  

   Thank you very much for the fallen hand,,ZacUK,, I somehow can't handle the photos .

And I immediately came across 1 as I walk through the king gradually:

He's the only hairy guy with his mouth so open

BMC 24

Antiochos IX Kyzikenos. Seleukid Kingdom. AE 18 mm. 114-96 BC. Antioch mint. Bearded, laureate head of Herakles right / BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOY ΦIΛOΠATOΡOΣ, Athena standing left, holding Nike and resting left hand on shield at her side, spear behind her. oIΔ monogram and aplustre (rudder?) in left field. Date ΓΣ (110-109 BC) in exergue. Hoover 1250; SC 2368; BMC 24; Sear Greece 7172 var (date).

 Antiochos IX Philopator, Seleukid Kingdom. AE18, Antioch mint. 114-95 BC. 4.94 g. Struck 110-109 BC (third reign).

I could clean the letters on mine too, but I don't want to interfere too much - ultrasound was enough and WD-40 preservative, I don't want to make interventions. Only if it was necessary.)

What is your opinion??

Ivan

 On those reverses the standing figure facing left may be Apollo > 

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/pavlos_s_pavlou_numismatist/131/product/syriaseleucid_empirealexander_i_balas_150145_bcaemint_of_antioch/1057667/Default.aspx 

Syria. Seleucid Empire. 

Alexander I Balas 150-145 BC.AE. 

Mint of Antioch.( 6.54g, 18mm, 12h )

Onverse: Bust of Alexander Balas right wearing lions skin.
Reverse: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔ (ΡΟΥ) 

Apollo standing left holding quiver in right hand and bow in left, 

control letters ΔΕ outer right field. 

 I see items above and below the raised arm, and also vertical behind. 

 I see you made I reply while I was writing mine. 

The lettering I see is sideways and vertical - so above the arm is

 ΒΑΣ 

and below it is the rest 

ΙΛΕΩΣ 

with the other word behind 

ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔ 

 All tilted 90 degrees right and reading downwards - from my link.  

ZacUK

 I see you made I reply while I was writing mine. 

The lettering I see is sideways and vertical - so above the arm is

 ΒΑΣ 

and below it is the rest 

ΙΛΕΩΣ 

with the other word behind 

ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔ 

 All tilted 90 degrees right and reading downwards - from my link.  

Oh, that's fast.

I am not enough to search, to read. In general, this Greek reading is very difficult for me.

And please, do you think they're both the same?

And thank you very much for your help and I am going to look closer and generally to the whole kingdom.

I think I have more coins in this area.

Ivan

 I did a drawing. May not be the coin at all, but shows what it may be like > 

 Perhaps behind the figure there may be two rows of lettering - so could be another coin. 

Or perhaps your second coin. 

 Lastly, it was  always noticed by me that though the second coin had a 

large portrait on the obverse, that on the first coin was smaller. 

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/shick_coins/202/product/seleucid_antiochus_viii_12196_bc_halfunit_ae15mm_apollo_standing_scarce/454791/Default.aspx 

 Also that has two rows of letters behind the figure. 

ZacUK

 Lastly, it was  always noticed by me that though the second coin had a 

large portrait on the obverse, that on the first coin was smaller. 

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/shick_coins/202/product/seleucid_antiochus_viii_12196_bc_halfunit_ae15mm_apollo_standing_scarce/454791/Default.aspx 

 Also that has two rows of letters behind the figure. 

Thank you very much,, ZacUK,,

,,Busts can also help me, I'm already at home in that kingdom, when I meet them, let me know them better,,

Hi, I'm moving on , I will not give up The people of the Kingdom of Seleucia trusted me and I must not disappoint them-my humor.

Ivan