Please Id coin 02 [решено]

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Hello friends, 

 

I'd like to Id this coin,

 

very difficult for me to understand. 

 

Diameter is mm 14*13

 

Weight is g 0,67

 

Thanks for the support 

 

Looks like the Austrian States coins 
With some kind of dragon, 180 degrees on your first picture

something simmilar:

N#140950

Thank you,

Now that thanks to you, I invert the coin, it seems to me that I see part of an eagle in profile, but it can also be a dragon.

I send the photo reversed 180 degrees.

On the reverse I seem to notice the figure of a person standing facing right.

 

My mistake, should be 90 degrees. I see clearly a dragon in the style of the Austrian States. 
Those coins could be tricky sometimes due to the "vierschlag method" they are minted.

Ahhh yes now I can see the dragon. 

You mean to say the "vierschlag method", where only a single sided die was used to strike the coin...then it was struck again on the other side (Cited from: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/stranger-things.305105/

Right? 

 

So it could be dated around 1300 - 1350 I guess? 

 

Thanks 

Certainly Austria or Germany. But is the dragon? It looks more like a lamb to me ...

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7420254

 

or a lion

https://www.ma-shops.de/raffler/item.php?id=17384

Yes I noticed some match with the lion shape 

It remind me something like a Germany pfennig, maybe Friedrich II? (1215-1250)

with lion advancing left… 

 

Or I'm totally wrong, I don't know… 

 

Lion shape it's also similar to this coin 

 

 

BTW, This person, facing right, could be the clue… 

 

or maybe there is no person, and I just have a blunder due to pareidolia

 

The coin is 99% one-sided. I don't know what you see on the reverse? It's probably just a wish ...

Maybe you are right, it's only a wish. 

The reverse shows the bavarian Weckenschild With a square visible. Could be that there where two arms but now only the right one visible.

these coins are called Vierschlagpfennig.

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The four-strike (Vierschlag) penny is a medieval coin that was not minted on round blanks. In order to avoid the expense of melting down the "waste" produced during the stamping process, the coins were minted from square or rectangular blanks cut with scissors. In order for the penny not to have sharp edges, the four corners were "rounded" with a hammer. In the center of the coin, this created the quadratum supercusum, which had the original thickness, but on the sides the metal was much thinner. However, the coin motif was only embossed in the center, as the edges were so thin that the dies could no longer capture them. After devices were available in the 15th and 16th centuries that made it economically feasible to stamp out round blanks, the four-strike pennies disappeared.

 

Maybe ‘Vierschlag’ should be added as an extra information under hammered and the form changed to irregular rectangle?

So Germany rather than Austria. 

 

By your point of view which century could it be? 

My colleagues noticed the Bavarian coat of arms on the reverse. This type of coat of arms was first used on coins of Rudolf I - Louis IV 1297-1317. Then there is no dragon, no lion, no lamb on the obverse ... only a panther! 😁  https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3020859

Wow you have found it 👍😀

 

Thanks a lot ✌️😊

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