Need help with this spanish/italian medieval coin

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Ive got hwre an bigger likely medieval era coin

 

The obverse has an lion on it

 

The only text visable is STE

 

The reverse has an castle With M castle S

 

The only other text i can read is ..BE.. N.. VS•E

 

The weight is 3.14g

 

The lenght is 19.33-24.65mm

 

Could you please start providing better photos and take this out of the flip?  You have been a Numista member for some time now and should know better.

harryg

Could you please start providing better photos and take this out of the flip?  You have been a Numista member for some time now and should know better.

My phone camera and bad lights is kinda what i have to use here cause despite how it looks not all of us have the luxuries to be able to afford the newest as for my photos i do agree they arent always good but instead of being prentencious about it let me know and ill gladly take better pictures including outside the flips if that detracts from the visuality of the coin.

Please show the whole text on the holder too,

it could help

 Yes. Is it your writing, or was it on there when you got it? 

 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

If i turn the 1. picture by 90° there is a year 18??, second questmark could be 9.

Vatican? 

 Pictures cropped and very few possible letters added. 

 

  

 No idea if either are orientated correctly. 

Obverse: Central circle containing a castle. Letter S on right. 

Reverse: Central circle containing a bird. Letters TE above. 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

 

 Also now seen N letter on right. 

Added outline of some of the castle. 

Added circles with unsure letters - 

could be a B or 3 on left 

could be a + below castle 

could be an S below that 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

Hennberg (German States) comes to mind with that chicken.

ZacUK

 Yes. Is it your writing, or was it on there when you got it? 

 

its just weight and lenght measurements

ZacUK

 

 Also now seen N letter on right. 

Added outline of some of the castle. 

Added circles with unsure letters - 

could be a B or 3 on left 

could be a + below castle 

could be an S below that 

its similair in looks to a castle in similair style to like blancas from spain

ive added in the letters i could decipher on the "obverse"

2 Maravedis Fernando y Isabel Sevilla

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and the letters and the rough design of the "lion" on the “reverse”

Frenchlover

2 Maravedis Fernando y Isabel Sevilla

yeah thats likely it gonna cross reference first

Frenchlover

2 Maravedis Fernando y Isabel Sevilla

After looking it over it doesnt match at all the lion and the castle is off aswell as the mint marks?

 Maybe though the BE you see is from ELISABET which that coin has. 

Probably just a different coin or denomination, with similar lettering. 

‘The length is 19.33-24.65mm’ so allowing for a bit more missing would 

maybe make the original diameter around 26mm or so. Still looking …  

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

Terrazone

ive added in the letters i could decipher on the "obverse"

 Well, I added an outer circle, plus measurements. 

Then BE and S· letters - cannot clearly see M or E though; 

especially if it were E it would be the other way round, clockwise, like the rest. Anyway > 

 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

ZacUK

Terrazone

ive added in the letters i could decipher on the "obverse"

 

 Well, I added an outer circle, plus measurements. 

Then BE and S· letters - cannot clearly see M or E though; 

especially if it were E it would be the other way round, clockwise, like the rest. Anyway > 

 

ZacUK

 Maybe though the BE you see is from ELISABET which that coin has. 

Probably just a different coin or denomination, with similar lettering. 

‘The length is 19.33-24.65mm’ so allowing for a bit more missing would 

maybe make the original diameter around 26mm or so. Still looking …  

this i agree with i did find a similair lion on leon maravedis in silver from the 15th century but no good match on the castle

 Yes - agree to all those added in that new picture. 

If slightly rotated to the left then at the very top may be a large star also. 

Still looking … 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

 Added in blue those from your latest picture. 

Added in red what is unseen but may be there. 

Added some of the castle edges. 

 

 

 Also rotated slightly and added a star at top. 

 

The other side could still be a lion, or bird. 

Still looking … 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

 With presumably, as other similar coins have  

Orientation: Medal alignment ↑↑ 

then the other side would be orientated  

 

 

 

 and the TE would then be around halfway around the lettering. Such as 

REX ET REGINA CASTELLE LEGIONIS 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

ZacUK

 With presumably, as other similar coins have  

Orientation: Medal alignment ↑↑ 

then the other side would be orientated  

 

 

 

 and the TE would then be around halfway around the lettering. Such as 

REX ET REGINA CASTELLE LEGIONIS 

Terrazone

ZacUK

 With presumably, as other similar coins have  

Orientation: Medal alignment ↑↑ 

then the other side would be orientated  

 

 

 

 and the TE would then be around halfway around the lettering. Such as 

REX ET REGINA CASTELLE LEGIONIS 

think the egi is part of REGINA 

 Added those 

 

REX ET REGINA CASTELLE LEGIONIS 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

 Having a rethink - different rotation / still could be a lion / shortened lettering 

 

 

REX ET REGINA CASTE [like some coins have] 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

 Summary so far … 

 

 

 

 

 FERNANDVS ET ELISABET // REX ET REGINA CASTE 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

 Oh, and the S on right of castle may be for Seville mint. 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

Its either Seville or Madrid Mint 

Madrid mint on mid XVIth century ?

Referee of south atlantic islands

Frenchlover

Madrid mint on mid XVIth century ?

I am assuming MS is madrid mint but i could be wrong

Madrid mint was on operation only sinc Felipe III on the XVIIth century

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