Belgian 20 Francs 1933-1934 - fake, variation, or neither?

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Hi all,

 

I've been looking through a few Belgian 20 Frank coins, and have questions. Coins concerned:

 

N#493

N#494

 

These are all ok for diameter and seem roughly ok on weight (between 10.9 grams and 11.0x grams on scales which I wouldn't trust 100% on the decimals)

 

First question on the edge inscription:

Coins should be in the same order, note the jump in the text on the first one and second to last. I mistrust the first one already in general from its feel, and would take this as additional indication of potential fake. However the second to last one seems otherwise ok to me. Is this something that just happens?

 

Now the more confusing part, I notice that on quite a few of these (and not necessarily the ones I suspect of potentially being fake) there is a difference in the tilt of the ‘Fr.’ inscription. I hope these pictures clarify what I mean, the first should just alternate between the versions:

 

this should be a gif, hope it works.

and a simple overlay maybe makes it clearer that the difference is pretty limited to the FR. and somewhat the date.

 

My basic question then: what am I looking at here? I can't seem to find anything about this as a variation, and if they indeed are fakes, to my eye they'd be pretty good. Or just nothing so see here, move on?

 

Penny (or centime) for your thoughts and best wishes,

53th0s

Another couple pictures, at least among mine seems some 1934 femish have a different ‘Fr.’ alignment, though there's one with the same as other years and French version

 

 

I realise I'm now just talking to myself, but this entire coin design is sooo crooked. It's just not really symmetrical and even the shield in the centre is tilted. How did these ever pass muster for getting made?!

Brussels mint has always been …different…

Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac

Agreed, I've never seen so many errors on one country's coins, even on modern Euro coins.  The Brussels Mint QA department must be non existent !!!

Amateur coin collector with some tokens

Have you tried to pass a magnet over it?  I just bought one that looks completely legit with the Belgium stamped onto the edges and my neodymium  magnet picked it right up and would not come off. They are supposed to be 100% nickel right?

The ones I asked above and are shown in my pictures from 1933-34 should be 680 silver,  but there are the 4 Belga coins from 1931-32 which should indeed be nickel: 

 

N#500

economicsguy

Have you tried to pass a magnet over it?  I just bought one that looks completely legit with the Belgium stamped onto the edges and my neodymium  magnet picked it right up and would not come off. They are supposed to be 100% nickel right?

Nickel is ferromagnetic.  If your magnet didn't pick them up then you should be worried. All you did was prove they were made from the correct material.

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