1864 4 baht 1864 60th birthday gold plated 70 grams? And value ? [решено]

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70 grams?  Not 60 grams?  If it's real (and certified) maybe US $14,000.  Unfortunately, it is most likely not real.  I suggest you watch the video on the following coin page then examine your coin.  You can also post good, high definition, in focus pictures here.

 

N#176330

I can't tell from those pictures but I'd assume it is a forgery.  If you think otherwise you should get it certified. 

there’s videos about YouTube on this coin  and how to tell  if it’s a forgery and it seams. To line right up

https://youtu.be/9nFlGKiZSBg?si=nyZY7HTnpyxIJrmo

Lucky me

there’s videos about YouTube on this coin  and how to tell  if it’s a forgery and it seams. To line right up

Yes there are. I suggested you watch the one on the coin page I linked to. 

see any difference I don’t I was mostly concerned about the weight say how it does wave between 60 and 70 g and everything does line up pretty sure it is.

I believe it's a forgery.  The characters on the reverse don't look right.

 

One example:           

Well it was made in 1864 and they. Couldn’t even keep the weight  the same and if u watched  the video everything lined up and And if u look at several of them  they all have minor differences in the writing  I can’t see putting all that effort into doing the obverse  To mess up a easy reverse thanks  I’ll let you  thanks For your opinion 

Another example:

 

your coin

 

real coin

 

Have you checked to see if it's magnetic?

 

My opinion is it's fake.  Let's see what others opinions are.

Well it’s real  silver  

To my eye, when I look at an authentic example like this one https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7958948  there is more of a feeling of open space in the design, because the stems of the floral elements and other features have been engraved so finely.  

 

There appear to be struck (versus cast) restrikes in various metals:

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6939245

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2467688

Even though struck (I think), they do not have sense of open space I see in the authentic ones.

 

Additionally, the surfaces on yours do not look as smooth as I would expect, but maybe this is just a photographic effect.

 

 

 

   

the details too mushy, looks a little like it was cast instead of milled

my moneys on it being a forgery. 

worth its weight in silver if it really is made of silver

-Ash

Comparison of similar area on an authentic coin.

 

As rsirian has done, this is the best way to look for obvious “tells."  In this case, I am trying to reinforce my earlier comment on deign details and surface texture in the fields.

Clear fake.  I agree with everyone else.

Hello 

Agree too

 But if you are not sure … send it to ngc 

gros

Hello 

Agree too

 But if you are not sure … send it to ngc 

I really wouldn't waste money doing this tbh.

-Ash

FlyingRedPanda

gros

Hello 

Agree too

 But if you are not sure … send it to ngc 

I really wouldn't waste money doing this tbh.

 

I recommend he waste the money doing it to learn a lesson since he thinks literally everyone who answers is always wrong because he isn't told what he wants to hear.

Tovarich

FlyingRedPanda

gros

Hello 

Agree too

 But if you are not sure … send it to ngc 

I really wouldn't waste money doing this tbh.

 

I recommend he waste the money doing it to learn a lesson since he thinks literally everyone who answers is always wrong because he isn't told what he wants to hear.

ah ha fair point after reading more I agree

their swaplist is full of incorrect entries and fakes too

-Ash

You guys knew they stuck the coin in two different sizes right the large in a small so lining up pictures with a large and small queens, not gonna work the most common being a large which would give the coin more space so it’s obviously like a little more  …

Lucky me

You guys knew they stuck the coin in two different sizes right the large in a small so lining up pictures with a large and small queens, not gonna work the most common being a large which would give the coin more space so it’s obviously like a little more  …

it's fake mate. 

N#176330

N#219035

there's only 2 versions of this coin in the catalog (if there are more please show evidence)

yours is neither.

there was no gold plated version, only a gold one which yours definitely doesn't look like it's gold.

it's a forgery/replica. it's not real.

-Ash

Just look at your coin: every single detail on your coin is off:

 

Look at the stars:

- On the real coin ALL stars point with two legs to the circle, on your coin some stars point with two legs to the circle (in green circles), some point with only one leg to the circle (in red circles).

 

 

- On the real coin ALL distances between the stars are the same, on your coin some stars are far from each other, some are close to each other (the green arrows are COPY/PASTE from the red arrows).

 

- On the real coin the flower is far from the star, on your coin the flower almost touches the star

 

Sunbeams:

- On the real coin 25 sunbeams, on your coin 20 sunbeams.

 

- On the real coin beads are on a band, on your coin beads are all separated.

 

EVERYTHING on your coin is suspicious:

 

And so on, and so on….

Why come ask questions since you know more than all of us?  Ship it off to NGC since you're so sure.

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