My 1987 coin weighs 2.56 g. Does any one have a heavy type from 1987-1991? The comments on KM#10 say such pieces have been reported but is that just in KM?
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
My 1987 coin weighs 2.56 g. Does any one have a heavy type from 1987-1991? The comments on KM#10 say such pieces have been reported but is that just in KM?
My 1987 coin weighs 2.56 g. Does any one have a heavy type from 1987-1991? The comments on KM#10 say such pieces have been reported but is that just in KM?
Hi friends, I just received a 1987 heavy version in my last swap, weighing 3.14 grams, and I also have the light version, weighing 2.54 grams. So, at least for 1987, we can confirm that both versions exist. From 1988 onwards, I only have the light version.
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Done modification requests for both types! Many thanks, Ole!! 😊
OK but why? Why does the catalog need a graphic saying the same thing that already said twice on each page, in the details box and in the comment section? Am I misunderstanding something or is it just a picture of a scale instead of numbers or words?
I have to wonder why Numista keeps rediscovering the same thing over and over. I would have thought adding relevant forum posts to the coin pages would have helped to not lose things like this. It's been 12 years since Numista discovered 1987, 1989 and 1990 have both types of coins.
It may seem like we're going over old ground but a look at the two pages reveals that we currently list both types for 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990 and 1991. If I've read the previous posts correctly, we only have evidence of both weights for 1987, 1989 and 1990. Both 1988 and 1991 are missing.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
It may seem like we're going over old ground but a look at the two pages reveals that we currently list both types for 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990 and 1991. If I've read the previous posts correctly, we only have evidence of both weights for 1987, 1989 and 1990. Both 1988 and 1991 are missing.
To keep it precise and short, here are the facts:*
1987: both types (km10 & km10a)
1988: no proof of any coin
1989: only km10a
1990 and further: only km10a,
That's it?
If you had looked at my messages, you should have noticed, that I have the 1991.
As far as pictures on scales, that's correct. However I believe we have evidence that 1988 doesn't exist and 1991 does. Look at the percentages of ownership
With an NRI of 4, 8% for 1991 translates into about 300 members entering that coin vs. 0.4% for 1988 which is about 15 members. I can believe 15 members entered their coin on the wrong page but not 300.
Looking at the old threads, they are actually saying the 1989 and 1990 coins are only the lighter, copper-plated zinc type. So we only have 1987 with both types confirmed and just a suspicion both types exist for 1991? In addition, we suspect that no 1988 coins exist of either type. Can I suggest we move all owners of 1989, 1990 and 1991 to KM#10a and see if any of them notice and can then weigh their coin? For 1988, since only 15 people claim to own this date, can we ask them for confirmation?
I know it's a bit bold but, since this has been rumbling on for over a decade, something bold seems to be required.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
Bold move indeed moving about a thousand or more members coins to a different page. That's an awful lot of members picking the wrong page. Sending PM's asking for pictures of coins on scales makes more sense.
I suppose the problem may have been that Krause (and I believe Schon) indicate that the light type (KM#10a) begins in 1992. Numista must have initially created the pages with KM#10 through 1991 and KM#10a starting in 1992. When some users began to realize that the coins from 1989 onwards were actually KM#10a, these new lines (1987-1991) were added, but in the meantime, users had already entered their coins between those years in the only place they could: KM#10. This could explain why there are more users who have their coins from 1987-1991 in KM#10 than in KM#10a.
KM#10KM#10a
I think the ideal would be to contact some users who claim to have 1988 and subsequent years (1989-1991) of KM#10 type to confirm whether our theory is true. I think 1988 doesn't exist and that 1989-1991 exists only for KM#10a.
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That's confirmed by the years and km# in my collection, but I miss the km#10 of 1987! That's proven by oynbcn.
My coins are correctly registered in numista.
IMO you can delete the 1988, after having asked the members for images of their coins from said year. I also don't believe that 1989 nor 1990 exist as km10!
KM#10: 1973-1987
KM#10a: 1987; 1989-2007
Ucoin is also wrong, if that would be any consolation!
Another indication that the 1988 coin doesn't exist is that no member has either type available to swap. Those offering 1989, 1990 and 1991 bronze type would seem like the best people to contact and ask for a weight.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
