Value of 1929 Poland 1 złoty without Mintmark

What might the be value of 1929 Poland 1 złoty without Mintmark as shown on picutres below. Weight 6.88 g. 

It exists

N#6629

See price on the Numista sheet

The value is strongly dependent on condition. Some recent auction results have been added to our listing.

In my opinion all pictures in the catalogue are wrong. They show coins with mintmark. Even the pictures of past sales!

Only the picture by dr_ghanj is a picture of a coin without mintmark.

The catalogue also doesn't mention where the mintmark is supposed to be. That is on the reverse, left down?

To me it looks like 'EK', not 'W'. Could it be engraver's initials?

Or does is present a fish? (looking to the left)

Interesting !
It might be the Kosciesza crest, symbol of the State Mint in Warsaw during the years 1924-1939.

instead of the W mark mentioned on the Numista file ?

This coin from dr_ghanj should be added as example for the file w/o mintmark

N#6629

This variety w/o mintmark is rare.

I made requests on behalf of dr_ghanj @ZacUK 

and modification of classification for sales

Frenchlover

Interesting !
It might be the Kosciesza crest, symbol of the State Mint in Warsaw during the years 1924-1939.

instead of the W mark mentioned on the Numista file ?

This coin from dr_ghanj should be added as example for the file w/o mintmark

N#6629

This variety w/o mintmark is rare.

 

I made requests on behalf of dr_ghanj @ZacUK 

 

 

and modification of classification for sales

This Mint Mark appears on many of the second Zloty (1924-1949) coins of Poland, along with a W & J which are the engravers initials https://en.numista.com/catalogue/artist.php?id=721

I wonder if this W mintmark was someone getting confused with the engravers initial as they often appear on opposite sides of the eagle and the fact that the Polish mint was in Warsaw?

Here is one with all three;

Frenchlover

Interesting !
It might be the Kosciesza crest, symbol of the State Mint in Warsaw during the years 1924-1939.

instead of the W mark mentioned on the Numista file ?

This coin from dr_ghanj should be added as example for the file w/o mintmark

N#6629

This variety w/o mintmark is rare.

 

I made requests on behalf of dr_ghanj @ZacUK 

 

 

and modification of classification for sales

thank you Frenchlover!

some time ago after initial discussion on this coin, I have sent it to NGC for certification and grading.

Coin has been certified by NGC and I am but little bit surprised with XF 40 grading. I was expecting higher grading to be honest. 

It may be noted that the SCWC erred in interpreting the Kosciesza crest mint mark as a "W".

This "1929W" is written on a NGC box for a past sale example.

Frenchlover

It may be noted that the SCWC erred in interpreting the Kosciesza crest mint mark as a "W".

This "1929W" is written on a NGC box for a past sale example.

That to me (the (w) in brackets) indicates that the coin was struck in Walsaw and not with a W mintmark, which might have been written with a capital W or small w without the brackets. The mintmark being of course the Kosciesza Crest symbol which was probably, awkward to say the least, to reproduce in print.

Frenchlover

It may be noted that the SCWC erred in interpreting the Kosciesza crest mint mark as a "W".

This "1929W" is written on a NGC box for a past sale example.

SCWC does not interpret Kosciesza crest mint mark as a "W".  This is how it defines (w):

Thanks for information, I modify my change request accordingly.

Frenchlover

Thanks for information, I modify my change request accordingly.

 

 

 

Hello Frenchlover

 You mentioned about my coin is rare. Do you have idea how much rare? What would my coin rarity index?

For example Kopicki mentions R*, Chałupski gives R7  and Parchimowicz mentions that such coin is a trial coin. 

Would be great to hear your comment on that. Thank you!

I consider a coin is rare when it is impossible to find it online. 

And if your coin had not been authenticated by NGC, one could imagine that the mintmark had been filed down.

I have no more expertise in this area :)

Frenchlover

I consider a coin is rare when it is impossible to find it online. 

And if your coin had not been authenticated by NGC, one could imagine that the mintmark had been filed down.

I have no more expertise in this area :)

OK. Understand. Thank you Frenchlover

On one hand I was very happy when NGC authenticated my coin.  But on the other hand I was sad because I was requesting NGC to add services like VarietyPlus or Mint Error and put on the label comment “No mint mark”. I was pointing this out to them in my comments. But looks like they ignored it. So I was puzzled why they did this.