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Hello, a seller is offering this coin, but I don't know where to classify it.

Thank you for the advice.

This is what the whole offer looks like

Looks like they're all N#4228

 

The strange one has a tampered date, post mint damage (most likely 1861 > 1001).

It's the date that confuses me.

 Clearly altered middle numbers - that 1 each end is original. 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

After zooming in a bit, I'm pretty certain to see the remains of the numbers 8 and 6.

 

I wouldn't know how to do it, but it's certainly possible to modify a coin like that.

So it's actually crap

 As that link is 1846-1860 then could only be an 1851A that has been altered. 

So two coins - 1850 or 1860 - have had their 0 removed, then inserted into 

spaces that used to have 51 in. Presumably. 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

ZacUK

 As that link is 1846-1860 then could only be an 1851A that has been altered. 

Sorry, I placed the wrong link initially. Corrected now.

And why did someone do that? To put in such a lot of work, for a coin, for 2 euros

The coin was probably already altered at the end of the 19th century when it had become worthless and a fun object to manipulate.

 Unless some other engineering method was used - somehow 

scraping off the top of the number then welding it onto the other coin. 

 Maybe after removing / flattening the 85 then creating 00 somehow - 

especially noticeable with the first 0 being larger and better formed 

than the slightly smaller more mis-shapen second 0 number. 

 Maybe another member would tell how it was done. 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

Okay, I'll leave it open for now, maybe someone else will comment.

yes 1861 →  1001

 

 

The way I see it, the coin is useless.

It was probably done by chasing;  moving metal from one area to another using punches and fullers. The fact that the zeros are crude and dissimilar would indicate that the perpetrator wasn't overly skilled. Still, an interesting novelty item, like my two headed penny.

Thank you everyone

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