Help to ID Hungary Silver Coin

Hello guys, need your help to ID this coin, maybe a contemporary forgery? The style is a little bit off for me, has no date and the diameter is completely off compared to the others Silver Deniers I found…… 26mm diameter and 2,39gr weight. Thanks in advance!
  

N#36841

Try this ruler. Gothic script makes it early design

But I have doubts about middle shield. Could be Vladislaus II (1490-1516) with his eagle. N#104815

2+ grams make it groschen and not denier.

Numista pages tell you reference books that might have more examples.

tokul

N#36841

 

Try this ruler. Gothic script makes it early design

But I have doubts about middle shield. Could be Vladislaus II (1490-1516) with his eagle. N#104815

 

2+ grams make it groschen and not denier.

 

Numista pages tell you reference books that might have more examples.

Hello Tokul. Yes you are right its a Groschen by Vladislaus II, but the sripts show KAIS instead REGIS, what do you think about it?

ramgu2005

tokul

N#36841

 

Try this ruler. Gothic script makes it early design

But I have doubts about middle shield. Could be Vladislaus II (1490-1516) with his eagle. N#104815

 

2+ grams make it groschen and not denier.

 

Numista pages tell you reference books that might have more examples.

Hello Tokul. Yes you are right its a Groschen by Vladislaus II, but the sripts show KAIS instead REGIS, what do you think about it?

The script is REGIS, not KAIS. Here is the image of ÉH#635 from the ÉH catalog:

SGreg85

ramgu2005

tokul

N#36841

 

Try this ruler. Gothic script makes it early design

But I have doubts about middle shield. Could be Vladislaus II (1490-1516) with his eagle. N#104815

 

2+ grams make it groschen and not denier.

 

Numista pages tell you reference books that might have more examples.

Hello Tokul. Yes you are right its a Groschen by Vladislaus II, but the sripts show KAIS instead REGIS, what do you think about it?

The script is REGIS, not KAIS. Here is the image of ÉH#635 from the ÉH catalog:

Hahaha you are right again, Im crazy to seeing KAIS instead of REGIS… But it can be a forgerie? The style of the shield and letters are too strange…

it does say REGIS,

If we compare the letterforms to other coins of Vladislas (denars and ducats), there are differences , For example, I do not find this A which resembles a Greek pi, on his early undated denars with this mint mark.  Nor the L with two vertical srokes is more characteristic of earlier times.

But also true is that this was a time when the letterforms were changing from Gothic to modern. 

From SGreg85's post, I now see the coin matches the catalog drawing.  So, maybe authentic?

tdziemia

it does say REGIS,

 

If we compare the letterforms to other coins of Vladislas (denars and ducats), there are differences , For example, I do not find this A which resembles a Greek pi, on his early undated denars with this mint mark.  Nor the L with two vertical srokes is more characteristic of earlier times.

But also true is that this was a time when the letterforms were changing from Gothic to modern. 

Yes its REGIS, I was seeing things when I saw KAIS hahaha… But yes, the style is very strange, shield, letters… I think its a contemporary forgerie…

Though we now see there is a lot that matches the catalog drawing, I still do not like the lettering.