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monéphil
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Hello!

I'm not familiar with US grading system, and I'd like help to grade these coins:

1) 1d 1936


2) 1/4d 1942


3) 1/2d 1948


4) 1d 1950


5) 1d 1951


And I'd like to know what you think of the KGVI coins toning :love:

Thank you!

Antoine
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manxcat12
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All varying VF's, in my opinion.
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minor
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here is a link to the various countries way to grade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coin_grading
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radrick007
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Sorry manxcat12, I've got to slightly disagree with you:

1) F- (extensive wear and damage to obverse field)
2) VF+ (just a little too much wear to make XF)
3) XF- (good detail, nice toning, not sure about rim?)
4) VF- (reasonable detail, damage to rim take it down half a grade)
5) VF

All my own humble opinion of course, would be interested to hear others
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

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monéphil
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Thanks Radrick and manxcat for your gradings :)

Thank too minor for the link :)

As radrick, I'd like to hear others opinions.
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smoked_caramel
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Agree with Rick 100%... well 99%  ;)
monéphil
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Yes, Rick's gradings are the more realistic. :)
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radrick007
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Thanks guys, I'm pleased that my grading opinions are meeting with some approval.

I'm hoping that the eminent Mr Nightingale will read this and offer his verdict.
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.
tony_k_1965
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I would mostly agree with Rick's grading, as for the toning they look as though they have been heated up or somewhere very hot as it doesn't look like natural toning.
radrick007
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Yeah, good call Tony. Now you've mentioned it and I had another look, the rainbow tones are there but they don't look natural.
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

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monéphil
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Yes, maybe they aren't natural, but It's not me who did it! :D

Does it add value or not?
For the 1/4d, it's beautiful natural toning, does it add value?

In general, what value give you to these coins? Because the WC values seems too light for me...
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radrick007
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I have bought quite a number of South African coins on eBay UK and have found the Krause values just a little low. Generally speaking, I reckon that if I used the same figure but made it in GBP instead of USD then it would be fairly close to what I was paying, give or take a little.
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

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Mark240590
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Rick your grades are spot on they wear on GV is worn in the places that according to Canadian coins grades it at around f but with the digs it would be a f- because the reverse brings it up !
Mark240590
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Also rick you're right about the valuations with Krause NGC etc too !

Also about the toning somewhere hot.. South Africa ? LOL
monéphil
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I've thinking a the same joke  :O
But don't forgot that they are penguins in the cape :P
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tony_k_1965
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I have lots of old pennies lying around, I'll post a couple pictures of them then I'll get the blow torch on them and show the results
Mark240590
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South African ?

If so I need GV 1penny1 lol
tony_k_1965
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Цитата: Mark240590South African ?

If so I need GV 1penny1 lol
English pennies m8
Mark240590
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I thought like ha.
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