Help me ID a Victorian copper coin

I need help identifying a 19th century British coin.

It is a thick copper coin bearing the 1838-1860 design of Queen Victoria.  It is 28mm in diameter, and weighs 8.2 grams.  It is too heavy to be a farthing (KM#725, 4.6g), and too light to be a halfpenny (KM#726, 18.8g).

What is it?

I can help you! Can you upload a photo?

Could someone please verify that the weight and diameter of both coins that I linked to in my original post are correct?

As you can see, this coin uses the common Victoria design used in the 1840s and 1850s.  No denomination is given on the reverse, which was typical for this style.



So what British coin made circa 1852 was 28mm in diameter and weighed 8.2g?

Цитата: CeruleanSo what British coin made circa 1852 was 28mm in diameter and weighed 8.2g?

I'll ask again, since I didn't get a response before.

I didn't find anything. I would assume it's either a colonial or australian coin.
Australia seems to be the best guess though because there were several Victoria issues
struck in 1852 then. But I can't find your coin right now.

Цитата: CeruleanAs you can see, this coin uses the common Victoria design used in the 1840s and 1850s.  No denomination is given on the reverse, which was typical for this style.



So what British coin made circa 1852 was 28mm in diameter and weighed 8.2g?

This is the British 1/2 Penny.

All British coins were legal tender in the British colonies.

Aidan.

Цитата: BCNumismaticsThis is the British 1/2 Penny.

Thanks for trying to help, Aidan, but I think you missed my point.  The weight and diameter of my coin do not match the weight and diameter of 1850s halfpennies listed on Numista.  I looked up the coin in the 19th Century volume of WC (2nd ed.) but no weight or diameter info was given there.

Either the weight and diameter on Numista is wrong, or my coin is something else.  That's why I want someone to call yea or nay on the Numista weight and diameter values for 1852 halfpennies.

There's a lot of errors that were in early editions of the 19th. Century Krause catalogue,which have,unfortunately,remain uncorrected.

You would be better off investing in a copy of Spink's 'Coins of England & the United Kingdom',as its coverage of the coins of the various reigns for England & the U.K. is excellent.

Have a look here; http://www.spink.com .

Aidan.

BCNumismatics: can you verify that Ceruleans diameter / data is the correct one? Then we change it...

I too think it is a halfpenny. I have a book that gives its weight as a gram heavier than yours, so allowing for wear it seems about right. On this site the three listings at the end of the page

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/royaume-uni-4.html

are as follows
½ Penny - William IV 1831-1837 Copper – 9.4 g – ø 28 mm KM# 706
                     and my book says Copper – 9.389 g – ø 28 mm
½ Penny - Victoria (1st portrait) 1838-1860 Copper – 18.8 g – ø 34 mm KM# 726
                                     and my book says Copper – 9.457 g – ø 28 mm
½ Penny - Victoria (2nd portrait) 1860-1875 Bronze – 5.7 g – ø 25.4 mm KM# 748
                                      and my book says Bronze – 5.693 g – ø 26 mm

 It is from Collectors Coins GB 2009 by Chris Henry Perkins issued by Rotographic.
Allowing for rounding-up to nearest number, I reckon the two figures in bold are worth changing, once verified of course. The wording in my book for both obverse and reverse are exactly the same as yours, so it is a British coin; do overseas old coins have at least the country on, even if not the value?
 Actually I just noticed that the same book for the penny of the same date says
Copper – 18.82 g – ø 34 mm so that looks most likely that the two figures on Numista page are for a penny and not a halfpenny.

You can always post photos up on http://www.colincooke.com/forum as well to get feedback from expert collectors in England regarding your coin.

I can still recommend the Spink catalogue.

It is a shame that Coincraft will not put out a new edition of their blue & pink catalogues for the British Isles' coins - blue - England & U.K.,& pink - Channel Islands,Ireland,Isle of Man,Lundy,& Scotland.

The Coincraft catalogues were very handy,especially for the simple catalogue numbering system based on the reign as well as the denomination.

Aidan.

If you have access to such a wide range of catalogs and literature - why not help us and check the UK /England coins for errors and missing data? besides I could still need some information and help about Maundy Money. Please check them and compare to your sources

Here's a very handy link about Maundy coins; http://www.maundymoney.info .

Paul Withers can help you out with catalogues.Have a look at http://www.galata.co.uk to see what you can find.

Aidan.