German States Saxony 2 pfennige 1859F

Hi !
I have this coin, but it's only 19mm diameter, 2,9g, instead of 19,7mm and 3,1g.
I have 1956 to compare with, and both text and shield are smaller too. No obvious sign of extreme wear (but then text and shield sizes should be equal)
Who solves this mystery ?

Pictures this weekend...

Tony

Here are the pictures :



Is this an error ? Different type ? Fake ? Other ?
Can't find it in numista catalog, or in Krause.
Anybody can verify size and weight on their coin ?
Thanks !

Цитата: tony.cHi !
I have this coin, but it's only 19mm diameter, 2,9g, instead of 19,7mm and 3,1g.
I have 1956 to compare with, and both text and shield are smaller too. No obvious sign of extreme wear (but then text and shield sizes should be equal)
Who solves this mystery ?

Pictures this weekend...

Tony

You mean 1856?

Perhaps a contemporary counterfeit.

Hey, here is a stroke of luck! My 1855F example of this coin is my only coin (so far) from any German State, and so what are the odds I would be able to almost help with a question on coins from German states?

My example looks more like your 1856F coin than your 1859F coin, so I suppose the design was changed subtly between those two years, or else "quality control" took a bit of a vacation. It is likely that nobody cared very much about these cheap pfennige coins and the uniformity of the planchets was not an important issue.

@ ZuluRaptorSpace : The 1859 is wrong size / weight according to catalogs.
I don't see why anyboby would counterfeit a coin of that low value ?
Also,why would  the design have been shrunk, so my guess is size and weight were altered in 1859 ?
Or, sizes of 2 pfennige were not the same in different German states. Maybe there somebody made an error ?

I'm still looking to solve this mystery...

I noticed that 1859 was the last year KM1185 was struck, and from 1862 KM1217 was struck, with the dimensions of my 1859 coin...
So my guess is this coin would be some kind of trial ?

Tony

relaunch ...

It is not a trial. The AKS catalogue of German coins lists 1859 with 19 mm diameter, the other years of this type and mint - 20 mm. Krause just didn't bother to mention the difference.

Thanks Andrey
Maybe in numista catalog we could bother...