Can't find the KM for this coin - Ottoman Empire? + Unknown coin/token (French?) [решено]

Date reads 1293?
Value 1?
Ottoman Empire?

But can't find it !


2nd:

Unfortunately my eyesight is not good enough to read this coin; it's very small. My camera is not very good either, so can't take detailed shots of it. It's <15mm diameter.. about 13mm I would say.

Seems French? ''POUR JOUER' on face. Does that mean for play? Game token?

Obverse :  Kawque de jeu?

  I see LAUER under the portrait of 2nd item, and is a well-known name for tokens manufacturer. Will see if I can find out more ...

Цитата: ZacUKI see LAUER under the portrait of 2nd item, and is a well-known name for tokens manufacturer. Will see if I can find out more ...

Ah the bottom word on reverse says Imitation. You're on the right lines

Hi!

The second is a french toy token  Made in Nuremberg.

1 Centime play money, probably. (#2)

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces9189.mobile.html

First one.

Second one as has been said is toy money.
Banque de jeu: Bank of Games.

Thanks everybody. As always very helpful!

<3 Numista

http://www.jezuss.nl/la/lauer.htm
Ernest Ludwig Sigmund Lauer 1783-1833



Inscription  : MARQUE * DE JEU * IMITATION * 1 CENTIME
                   MARQUE POUR JOUER * LAUER *
Denomination : 1 Centime
Diameter : 12.7 mm
Edge : Plain
Material : Copper
Mint : L. Chr. Lauer - Nürnberg
Orientation : Coin Alignment
Weight : 0.58 gram


EDIT: I also thought it said BANQUE but it says MARQUE  



http://vso.cgb.fr/v06/v060031.html
Marque pour jouer, SD, (Bronze, 13mm., 6 h., 0,61g.), ( 900°/°°, taille 1000 au kilo ).
A/ MARQUE POUR JOUER // LAUER. Tête de Cérès à gauche couronnée d'épis.
R/ MARQUE DE JEU // IMITATION // 1 / CENTIME. au centre 1 / CENTIME.
Tranche : lisse. M/ Régie des Monnaies (depuis 1880).
  GG/ Henri-Auguste Patey (1896-1930). G/ Eugène André Oudiné (1810-1887).

Blurred photo! Well done, ZacUK.

Anybody know if this coin has any value?

If not , I will swap it - Someone will enjoy it more than me.

Цитата: WHATEVERRAnybody know if this coin has any value?

Somebody wants  14.99 €  =  £12.54  for theirs, in fairly good condition ...

http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id,197803534,var,1-centime--Marque-pour-jouer-imitation-LAUER-marque-de-jeu-Ceres-Louis,language,E.html#.Uyiz7M4SDXQ

Цитата: ZacUKSomebody wants  14.99 €  =  £12.54  for theirs, in fairly good condition ...

http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id,197803534,var,1-centime--Marque-pour-jouer-imitation-LAUER-marque-de-jeu-Ceres-Louis,language,E.html#.Uyiz7M4SDXQ

k that one is in much better condition. I am happy to swap it then !

Thanks again !