½ and 1 Ksharpana from Eran?

I have been trying to verify the identity of these two small copper punched marked coins from India and would appreciate and help or provide further information about the coins.

Thanks
Roy

½ Ksharpana
Size 8.35 x 7.52mm
Thickness 1.37mm
Weight 0.47 g

1 Ksharpana
Size 10.52 x 10.29mm
Thickness 2.01mm
Weight 1.27 g

Hi Roy,

  Looks like that. I will try to match these up with Peiper's book and will let you know.

Hi Roy,

  The nearest to these coins are Ujjain/Malwa series copper Punch-Marked coins.

Pieper has listed the following in his book,

#171 Malwa, AE, 10x8 mm, 0.85 grams
Obv. Two sun like symbol and 2 geometrical symbols.
Rev. Punch with 2 dots.

Unfortunately the smaller one is not listed in the book and no mention of the denomination.

We have this one listed here.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces43700.html

Sujit

Thanks again for persevering and coming up with the Pieper reference and the Numista example.

Do you think that I should enter them as ½ and 1 Ksharpana?

Roy

In my opinion the 1/2 Karshapana should be created as it's weight is way less than numista example (Has to be smaller denomination).

Also do you have any reference for the denominations and their weights?

I have no reference books for this period and got them of shamikb who had identified then as ½ and 1 Ksharpana  from Eran. (I think that he may have got them from and auction in India).

I have posted them on the South Asian Coins website but have had no response as yet.

The coins on https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces43700.html weighs 0.94g and is listed as ⅛ Karshapana - Malwa Region which makes query what mine should be.

Roy

Thanks Roy for the clarification. I am yet to find a conclusive book on Denominations and their weights on Punch-Marked coins. Rekha Jain's book throws some light on possible denominations, I will try to find more from that book.