Sikh King -Ranjit Singh Rupee

I would like to know the grade,price,originality and catalog of this coin

Year     : VS1874 or 1817 AD
Weight :11 gram

is ngc link is correct ?
http://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/india-independent-kingdoms-sikh-empire-rupee-km-20-1a-1873-1874-cuid-130079-duid-331051



Thanks for looking

Could it not be the km# 20.1?
The mintplace looks different (bottom 1st picture)
And I see a regnal year 2 (right side of the first picture)
I see what looks like a sheep on the 2nd picture.
Nice coin.
I would not accept less than US$15 for it.

Цитата: PetrusAscanusCould it not be the km# 20.1?
The mintplace looks different (bottom 1st picture)
And I see a regnal year 2 (right side of the first picture)
I see what looks like a sheep on the 2nd picture.
Nice coin.
I would not accept less than US$15 for it.

It cannot be Km #20.1
As those coins have broad leaf,  also there is trident below the leaf which is mentioned in 20.1a
If i again see Km#20.1a than there is also sheep is formed(in mange looking S) but if you notice ngc has mentioned that that image is not exactly same
Also in Km# 20 there are no small lines all around the coin which is shown in image while in 20.1a  there are

The 'S'  is also on you coin, just above the 'sheep'.
The 20.1 also has a triden below the leaf.
There is a regnal year on your coin
The mintplace on your coin (bottom second picture) is different (krause:mintnames seems to change...)

You should find somebody who can read the coin.
Haseeb will prbably help you:
naz_haseeb@hotmail.com
http://www.chiefacoins.com/
Please keep us informed on this nice coin

Цитата: PetrusAscanusThe 'S'  is also on you coin, just above the 'sheep'.
The 20.1 also has a triden below the leaf.
There is a regnal year on your coin
The mintplace on your coin (bottom second picture) is different (krause:mintnames seems to change...)

You should find somebody who can read the coin.
Haseeb will prbably help you:
naz_haseeb@hotmail.com
http://www.chiefacoins.com/
Please keep us informed on this nice coin

i have mailed him let' see person reply early. Well i have found a coin similar to mine check this link
http://www.sikhcoins.com/List4b%20Sikhcoins_com_27032013.pdf

Kindly zoom here small "S" which u r saying is there but not so prominent and also sheep like stuff

I am sorry, the date is VS, not AH. There I was wrong!
Good find!!
Thanks for informing me.

Цитата: PetrusAscanusI am sorry, the date is VS, not AH. There I was wrong!
Good find!!
Thanks for informing me.

Haseeb said yes it is extra fine punjab rupee 1874 and it belong to date VS1874/1817 AD but he was little rude ....

As I said, Haseeb is a very nice guy wwith a lot of knowledge about indian coins.

Цитата: PetrusAscanusAs I said, Haseeb is a very nice guy wwith a lot of knowledge about indian coins.

What you think is the value of this

Did Haseeb give you a catalog reference?
Than you can search this site :
http://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/

Цитата: PetrusAscanusDid Haseeb give you a catalog reference?
Than you can search this site :
http://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/

Yes, he said it is real punjab rupee coin with xf grade, of  amritsar mint, date correct VS1874.But he said he do not read this language. I guess he just compared with some image and replied quickly. I had checked his chiefa catalog there is no refrence of KM #20.1a. So he just said Km #20.1

till now I found this:
'no doubt, it is a Sikh rupee of a known date and variety,
 struck at Amritsar,
 see 109576.
 To collect Sikh coins(and other Indian coins), it is necessary to buy the book
 written by Hans Herrli. '

http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=109576

Цитата: PetrusAscanustill now I found this:
'no doubt, it is a Sikh rupee of a known date and variety,
 struck at Amritsar,
 see 109576.
 To collect Sikh coins(and other Indian coins), it is necessary to buy the book
 written by Hans Herrli. '

http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=109576

Thanks for replying and updating. Yes, it seems a very unique coins   do you aware how to update ngc?

Цитата: GurkiratThanks for replying and updating. Yes, it seems a very unique coins   do you aware how to update ngc?

Even though, most people use Krause, it is not a true reference book.  Krause is pretty much a summarized, laundry list of coins and lacks depth.  There are so many errors and they don't have the resource to update their books.  We have tried numerous times to send updated pictures and updated legends but they just ignored our requests.  

It is great for beginners, but once you start to delve deeper into a series, you quickly find out that it is missing a lot of coins.  So, use it with caution. Herrli is the defacto standard for Sikh coinage!

Here is some more info about the tekst:

right image: the Nanak Shahi couplet,
http://www.academia.edu/4564498/Coins_of_the_Sikhs_N%C4%81nakshahi_Couplet

left image: mint and date formula,
including the 'Throne of God' as the issuing authority.

With thanks to Frank from Hamburg

Цитата: Quant.Geek

Цитата: GurkiratThanks for replying and updating. Yes, it seems a very unique coins   do you aware how to update ngc?

Even though, most people use Krause, it is not a true reference book.  Krause is pretty much a summarized, laundry list of coins and lacks depth.  There are so many errors and they don't have the resource to update their books.  We have tried numerous times to send updated pictures and updated legends but they just ignored our requests.  

It is great for beginners, but once you start to delve deeper into a series, you quickly find out that it is missing a lot of coins.  So, use it with caution. Herrli is the defacto standard for Sikh coinage!

okay thanks  

Цитата: PetrusAscanusHere is some more info about the tekst:

right image: the Nanak Shahi couplet,
http://www.academia.edu/4564498/Coins_of_the_Sikhs_N%C4%81nakshahi_Couplet

left image: mint and date formula,
including the 'Throne of God' as the issuing authority.

With thanks to Frank from Hamburg

Thanks for updating my knowledge sir