more head scratchers

Another 4 I cant identify.

Top right and bottom right appear to be Irish but no clue after that and if they are worth keeping in the state they are in.





The one with the bell has "JohnGilbertAtThe" other side reads "bellinNewsari"

no point weighing them due to severe wear.

first 1 is a rose farthing 1636-44 and thats all I can help you with

Bottom left is a 17th century apothecary's token. Good find, it appears to have some significant value. Christies auctioned one as part of a set of three which realized $395.  The way I read the catalog listing is that there were three coins ranging from F to VF, one of which was extremely rare. The other two, including one similar to yours were classed very rare.

While your coin is probably not quite so good a grade and has a little damage it should still have a decent value due to it's rarity. Perhaps one of our friends with access to a 17th century token catalog can give you a better idea of the value.

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/LotDetailsPrintable.aspx?intObjectID=1909016

Congratulations, nice finds so far.

After checking a few things ---the 2 on the right (top/Bottom) as both Irish James or Charles 1 farthings

Trust you to pick the farthings  

Цитата: neilithicTrust you to pick the farthings  

 its boring  lately, I have bought nothing re the farthings ----but I do have about 10 x1859s and some others of Canada large cents coming next week, so it will keep me busy for about 10mins

Thanks for the replies, I almost added them to my junk coin pot!   Glad I didn't!  

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Цитата: neilithicTrust you to pick the farthings  

 its boring  lately, I have bought nothing re the farthings ----but I do have about 10 x1859s and some others of Canada large cents coming next week, so it will keep me busy for about 10mins

I should of asked earlier, with this lot is also ...

1 x 17th century Taunton farthing
1660 Bristol farthing
2 x 1662 Bristol farthing
1967 and 1968 Norwich farthings
1669 Gloucester Farthing
1669 Bruton Farthing
Kingslynn farthing.

none of which I have seen or heard of, made identifying them a task and a half.

with them were ...  

1982 proof 20p
2 roman "brothel" tokens
2003 euro proof set
1908 V Nickel
1933 NZ shilling

and quite a few more...... Total cost was £50, blind faith buy that turned out to be a good move.