1 Skilling 1771 [решено]

Hello all

i have this 1771 1 skilling and i know there are a few variations with the C7 and was hoping someone could help me identify is there is any variation. Also there appears to be no stop after the date is this anything or just wear?

Hi,

we're talking about the km616.n, so all you really want to know is, if it's the .1 to .7?

First a little help generally where it helps if you can speak a bit of Danish:
http://www.danskmoent.dk/artikler/1771kgsb.htm with an English summary

Now to the km numbers


The coin is NOT
.4 "DANKSE"
.5 "DANAKE"
.6 "DNASKE"
.7 "M.K" in sted of "K.M"

so that leaves you with ONLY 3 possibilities
.1 is out, since the point in the date is IN the date and not BELOW the date, here I suppose the KM catalog shows a km616.1 in the image, I might be wrong, but anyway the K.M. distances are not the same!

so is it a .2 or .3?

According to the drawings in the Pedersen article, the link above, your coin was minted in Altona, now Germany, because of the big distances between the "K", the ".", the "M" and the "." Unfortunately KM only differentiates between a "serif" top of the "C"s and the thickness of the "C".... not very precise at all.

My coin has a "C" thickness of 1.82 mm, but is that thick or thin?

Here is my coin, in a rather bad state, but it ressembles your coins features?


That's all the help I can give you. If you figure it out in the end, please tell me?

Ole

That is a really beautiful coin and that was an answer worthy of it from Ole. A perfect example of how to eliminate the obvious non contenders and narrowing the choices down. It's probably the thing I enjoy most about coin collecting.

So.... congratulations Ryan and nicely done Ole.

Thank you Ole a truly amazing response. I have measured mine and it comes to the same 1.82 mm so i'm still unsure on which it is, would really need to see a few together to get an idea of the differences, if i find an answer i will definitely let you know.

But If it's not to much trouble would either of you give me your opinion on its grade?

Thanks again

I'd say VF despite the worn rims and general "F" appearance, although I've only ever owned two examples of such coins so I've never had the chance to look at an uncirculated example to gauge how much detail has been lost. Sometimes with early coppers it's just the way they were struck, using relatively primitive coin presses which often fail to capture much of the details the designer intended. High quality coins for mass circulation, in my opinion, didn't arrive on the scene until the advent of Matthew Bolton's Soho mint just a few years after your coin was struck.

If someone more familiar with the series was to offer a different opinion I would be happy to gracefully concede.

I'd go with pnightingale's evaluation, but eventually top it to a vf+, since the crown and the beads on the rim are rather clearly defined, they are always the first to disappear by tear and wear!

Ole

Thank you both, you have been so much help!! hopefully i can pass on some of my knowledge to others :)

Hi
Your 1 skilling 1771 is made in 1783/84 by a dies maker named Johan Henrik Wolff
and is hammerd in Altona Germany (hamburg) part of Denmark until 1864.
your coin type is the third most common but there are many subtypes
Torben