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I don't know about "gem" but clearly looks fake to me!
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Цитата: "lidianb"​I don't know about "gem" but clearly looks fake to me!
​the silver is pure, the diameter weight is 99.9% perfect. It is usa doller 1800 pls check this http://coins.ha.com/ref/beginners-price-guide.zx?denomination=Dollar%20#List
Well, just because a coin is made of silver doesn't necesarily mean it is genuine. There are plenty of e.g. Chinese fake coins dollar size made of silver, also Albania 5 Franc 1927 plenty of fakes made of silver, and the list is long for many other coins. To me it is fake, let's see what other people think about it. And it would be nice to have some obverse images as well.
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Looks counterfeit to me ...
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Цитата: "lidianb"​Well, just because a coin is made of silver doesn't necesarily mean it is genuine. There are plenty of e.g. Chinese fake coins dollar size made of silver, also Albania 5 Franc 1927 plenty of fakes made of silver, and the list is long for many other coins. To me it is fake, let's see what other people think about it. And it would be nice to have some obverse images as well
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​I understand what u want to say but, in india nobudy has such time to make such perfect dye and and talent to make such a finishing of a rare old coin, nobody even knows about this, and i found this coin in punjab state, i am sure it is genuine because mostly of punjabi peoples (sardarji) working and residing in usa and caneda. And frequently traveled to india. Thats why im sure
Цитата: "derf"​Looks counterfeit to me ...
​so suggest how can i solve
Now I am even more convinced that is a fake. If you are looking to buy it do not buy it. If you have already bought it, I hope you didn't pay more than 5$ for it.
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Цитата: "lidianb"​Now I am even more convinced that is a fake. If you are looking to buy it do not buy it. If you have already bought it, I hope you didn't pay more than 5$ for it.
;) i found this near roadside​ ​​​
Hi Hari,

When you find a $5000+ coin by the roadside, it seems too good to be true, and it probably is.
Here's a link to a genuine coin:
https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-explorer/early-dollars-pscid-45/-1800-s1-ms-coinid-16887
As you can see, the stars, and the font used for the date are different, also the denticles appear to be off on both sides.

These coins are very good copies, with a very similar weight diameter etc, I have a couple of similar ones myself.
The one listed here
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1800-DRAPED-BUST-SILVER-DOLLAR/746359830.html?spm=2114.40010708.4.2.qk61MR
looks more like your coin than the genuine one I'm afraid.
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I really hate it when I find a $5,000 coin at the side of the road and it turns out to be a fake. Ruins my whole day.

Real coins don't wear like you gem. It's absolutely, 100% fake.
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Цитата: "BizzoDoes"​Hi Hari,

​When you find a $5000+ coin by the roadside, it seems too good to be true, and it probably is.
​Here's a link to a genuine coin:
https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-explorer/early-dollars-pscid-45/-1800-s1-ms-coinid-16887
​As you can see, the stars, and the font used for the date are different, also the denticles appear to be off on both sides.

​These coins are very good copies, with a very similar weight diameter etc, I have a couple of similar ones myself.
​The one listed here
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1800-DRAPED-BUST-SILVER-DOLLAR/746359830.html?spm=2114.40010708.4.2.qk61MR
​looks more like your coin than the genuine one I'm afraid.
​ what dont sell untill solved, check ebay minimum 650$ bro
Цитата: "pnightingale"​I really hate it when I find a $5,000 coin at the side of the road and it turns out to be a fake. Ruins my whole day.

​Real coins don't wear like you gem. It's absolutely, 100% fake.

​i type gem because of its price bro, and gems found near roadside, nobody gives u free or cheap, its about faith, pls tell me how check its authenticity
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Цитата: "lidianb"​Now I am even more convinced that is a fake. If you are looking to buy it do not buy it. If you have already bought it, I hope you didn't pay more than 5$ for it.
​​;) i found this near roadside​ ​​​
​The reason that you found it on the roadside is because the previous owner who bought it on Ali Baba found out that it was a fake, got angry and threw it out of the window  :)
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Цитата: "lidianb"​Now I am even more convinced that is a fake. If you are looking to buy it do not buy it. If you have already bought it, I hope you didn't pay more than 5$ for it.
​​​;) i found this near roadside​ ​​​
​​The reason that you found it on the roadside is because the previous owner who bought it on Ali Baba found out that it was a fake, got angry and threw it out of the window  :)
:8D i didn't thought that, but now its become contrivential
Hi Hari,

It's 100% fake, a cheap Chinese replica. If you can take it to a jeweler I am sure he will confirm that it's not even silver.
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Цитата: "sujit_kumar"​Hi Hari,

​It's 100% fake, a cheap Chinese replica. If you can take it to a jeweler I am sure he will confirm that it's not even silver.
​aapka hi intezar tha sujit bhai, check previous msgs, silver pure, weight 99.9% correct size in mm 100% correct,
Hello, Hari, If it is. 99.9 percent silver it's even more fake. Us coins were not minted in that type of silver at the time.
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I collect anything: If it's Italian or Italian states i collect it even more!
We don't have to argue about the authenticity of this metal round, it's 100% fake. In addition to the story of how you got the coin that screams FAKE to the heavens, the details are wrong and the crudeness of the portrait and eagle wouldn't even fool a blind person.

Also the problem with the right diameter and weight in numismatics is that most of the time there is no thickness given so you could make a coin out of a whole range of materials and still have the right diameter and weight.
I have no knowledge of fakes whatsoever, and even I can see that the denticles and the shapes of the stars are way off.
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Цитата: "pnightingale"​I really hate it when I find a $5,000 coin at the side of the road and it turns out to be a fake. Ruins my whole day.
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​​Real coins don't wear like you gem. It's absolutely, 100% fake.
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​​i type gem because of its price bro, and gems found near roadside, nobody gives u free or cheap, its about faith, pls tell me how check its authenticity
I think the links provided by Bizzodoes should suffice. I really wish it was genuine, it would ​be a great story to tell your grandchildren but unfortunately it just wasn't to be.

Still, who knows what the future may hold eh? Keep strong, keep the faith and keep searching. Turning up a real rarity is something every numismatists should strive for.

Good luck.
Non illegitimis carborundum est.  Excellent advice for all coins.
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Цитата: "hari singh"​​​I understand what u want to say but, in india nobudy has such time to make such perfect dye and and talent to make such a finishing of a rare old coin, nobody even knows about this, and i found this coin in punjab state, i am sure it is genuine because mostly of punjabi peoples (sardarji) working and residing in usa and caneda. And frequently traveled to india. Thats why im sure



​Are you freaking kidding me??? India is one of the worst countries for counterfeit production. I have come across so many fake silver rupee coins it's not funny.

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