1820 Ireland CANADA Halfpenny Token 1820 WELLINGTON HIBERNICUS [решено]

I can not find this coin in our catalog - I must be missing something. Any help would be appreciated.

Grade I believe to be Very Good - any opinions on grade? THX Ed

Hmm. Searched as well and its definitely missing from catalog. My guess on grade - Very Good+ (VG10?)

I'm pretty sure this isn't a Canadian token if I have time before I go away I'll check the Charlton catalogue but I'm quite sure there's nothing there for this one and I'm sure it's only Irish.

These pages says it is Irish ...
http://www.irish-tokens.co.uk/davis%20all%20thumbs.htm
in the Dublin 1/2d section under D68 Hibernicus '20
http://www.irish-tokens.co.uk/davis%20all%20thumbs.htm#d68
A large laureated bust to right. HALFPENNY TOKEN
Hibernia seated to left, supporting a harp of eight strings. HIBERNICUS 1820 Parkes.

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/irish-hibernicus-2d-token-1820-541558491
Copper halfpenny Irish Hibernicus token dated 1820, designed by Isaac Parkes.
Edge plain. Davis 68. Weight 7.90 grms. Diameter 28 mm


Then again - this page says it is Canadian ...
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/lockdales/catalogue-id-lo10024/lot-43212ae5-2743-4343-8a4f-a43200e1b242
with a Withers 2000 catalogue reference.


Maybe minted in Ireland for use in Canada.

Hey Ed that is cool. Hope you get more information on it.

Цитата: "ZacUK"​ These pages says it is Irish ...
​http://www.irish-tokens.co.uk/davis%20all%20thumbs.htm
​in the Dublin 1/2d section under D68 Hibernicus '20
​http://www.irish-tokens.co.uk/davis%20all%20thumbs.htm#d68
​A large laureated bust to right. HALFPENNY TOKEN
​Hibernia seated to left, supporting a harp of eight strings. HIBERNICUS 1820 Parkes.
​
​http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/irish-hibernicus-2d-token-1820-541558491
​Copper halfpenny Irish Hibernicus token dated 1820, designed by Isaac Parkes.
​Edge plain. Davis 68. Weight 7.90 grms. Diameter 28 mm
​
​
​ Then again - this page says it is Canadian ...
​https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/lockdales/catalogue-id-lo10024/lot-43212ae5-2743-4343-8a4f-a43200e1b242
​with a Withers 2000 catalogue reference.
​
​
​ Maybe minted in Ireland for use in Canada.

​I'm still out :(

when get in I'll check but if it's not in Charltons Canadian colonial tokens it won't be going in the Canadian catalogue.

Weight - 7.5g Diameter - 28.3mm

I did find this on the web
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ireland-1820-halfpenny-token-293056028

Ireland - 1820 Halfpenny Token 'HIBERNICUS'.
An Irish halfpenny token of 1820. Withers (The Token Book) ref 2000.

I also found this site - check #68 under Davis early 19th Century

68. O: A large laureated bust to right. HALFPENNY TOKEN
R: Hibernia seated to left, supporting a harp of eight strings.
HIBERNICUS 1820 Parkes.

http://www.irish-tokens.co.uk/davis%20original.htm

Just checked my Charlton Canadian Colonial Tokens and found many "similar" Obverses and Reverses but definitely no pairing of the two.

1. In 1817 the government (Nova Scotia) ordered the removal of all halfpenny tokens by 1820. Of course, nothing was done to provide an alternate supply so attempts began once more to do so privately. (pg. 75)

2. In 1825 a halfpenny token was struck on Canadian order but the currency regulations enacted in 1825 forbade further importation of private tokens into Canada. However, nothing in the regulations interfered with the importing of tokens dated before 1825. As you can well imagine, many private issues were antedated to get around the regulations. (pg. 157)

Hoping this is helpful

I wouldn't go as far as VG, for a coin to be VG aren't all aspects of the design are supposed to be present? That one has a big bald spot right in the middle of the reverse. I would go G

I have added this token to the catalog. Please let me know if you have any corrections or improvements to the entry.


https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces90547.html


Thanks to all for their research, and to edduns for starting the conversation.