Help IDing "Ancient" Coin?

I was hoping someone could ID this coin I picked up today, at least for where it's from and what time-period it is from.

I know it's pretty worn and dark, but it is neat.

It's about half an inch.

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Ideally, you should take the coin out of the holder because the legend is difficult to read with the reflection. If necessary, take two pictures of each side at different angles to get as many letters as possible. Even better: close-ups, because the legend is the key to identifying coins, unless someone happens to recognize the type (i.e. the bearded face and the standing figure).

The legend seems to be in Latin, and therefore this would be a Roman coin, or perhaps a Roman provincial coin since I don't recognize this type and it seems to be a small bronze, though not a quadrans (?). By the way, it would be important to know the diameter and, ideally, the weight of the coin.

Thank you for responding. I will see what I can do, but it is about half an inch. The weight I cannot get as I have no scale, nor does anyone have an electronic balance that I know of.

It looks like an LRB ( Late Roman Bronze ) late 3rd early 4th century.
The reverse is most likely a " Salvs Repvblicae " although the legend on your coin is quite difficult to make out.
The emperor is going to be 1 of Arcadius, Honorius or Theodosius, again the legend is difficult to make out.
I also am unable to make out the mintmark on your coin.

The portrait doesn't look familiar to me. Still, it's worth pursuing.

On the Wildwinds page for Honorius, there are only two coins with Salus on the reverse. Note: you need to search for salvs (not salus).

The page for Arcadius looks more promising.

See also under Theodosius I and Theodosius II.

Its not about recognising the portrait Camerinvs, use the reverse " Type " and work from there instead.
These late types are often difficult to read when rough so the reverse is often your best tool.
Once you know the type then you can find out which emperors issued it, then use a legend breakdown ( both arcadivs & Honorius have 8 letters, theo 10 ) and so on until you get your answer.
I used www.tesorillo.com when I started out collecting LRB's which I found very useful, give it a try.

Correction - my previous post I put " late 3rd - early 4th century " it should say " late 4th - early 5th ".

"Posted by Ninebobnote on 14-Sep-2016, 12:31pm:
Its not about recognising the portrait Camerinvs, use the reverse " Type " and work from there instead."

May I respectfully disagree? It can be about recognizing the portrait, as I have done for quite a few coins posted in Numista. Should one just give up if he doesn't recognize the reverse type?

So, in my view, it's not one at the exclusion of the other. And I have on several occasions identified a coin from its reverse type.

If one throws enough darts 1 will inevitably hit the target Camerinvs, its the process that matters at the end of the day.

By not recognising 1 of the most common reverse types of the period you have already told me that you don't have the knowledge required to give advice on LRB's.
There are many with greater knowledge than myself on here but the OP coin is first day at school stuff regarding LRB's.
YES, you should give up if you think your way of identifying works for this period of coinage.
We are talking about LRB's, if you cant recognise the reverse types then its time to forget what you think you might know and start again.
You may even get to the point where you hear yourself saying " oh another Fel Temp " " oh another Providentia"
" geez not another salvs repvb " all this without reading any of the legend
Then you use this information and you get an I.D in a fraction of the time it would take via your method, if you are successful at all. That's when the darts come out.
I hope you take this as it is meant and use it to further your education of the period, don't be so defensive when faced with greater knowledge and remember the most important thing of all -
Its not a competition.

Цитата: "Ninebobnote"​If one throws enough darts 1 will inevitably hit the target Camerinvs, its the process that matters at the end of the day.
​
​By not recognising 1 of the most common reverse types of the period you have already told me that you don't have the knowledge required to give advice on LRB's.
​There are many with greater knowledge than myself on here but the OP coin is first day at school stuff regarding LRB's.
​YES, you should give up if you think your way of identifying works for this period of coinage.
​We are talking about LRB's, if you cant recognise the reverse types then its time to forget what you think you might know and start again.
​You may even get to the point where you hear yourself saying " oh another Fel Temp " " oh another Providentia"
​" geez not another salvs repvb " all this without reading any of the legend
​Then you use this information and you get an I.D in a fraction of the time it would take via your method, if you are successful at all. That's when the darts come out.
​I hope you take this as it is meant and use it to further your education of the period, don't be so defensive when faced with greater knowledge and remember the most important thing of all -
​Its not a competition.
​

Insult Removed

Come on guys. This coin is nearly a slick, not worth arguing over, at least until you get better pics. Late Roman Bronzes are such a large area of interest you are going to find disparate methodologies for identification. Use the one that works for you and accept other methods exist. If you want to argue the merits of O vs. R and include insult as reasoning please take it private.

I have done what the OP was requesting, helping with the identification of the coin.
Unfortunately Camerinvs has taken it upon himself to ignore sound advice and become the token raggy doll for the day.
I very much hope that Spirit Bear spends a little time researching his coin with the information provided and isn't put off in any way, Romans are awesome coins if you take the time to learn a little about them and the history that surrounds them.

Цитата: "Ninebobnote"​I have done what the OP was requesting, helping with the identification of the coin.
​Unfortunately Camerinvs has taken it upon himself to ignore sound advice and become the token raggy doll for the day.
​I very much hope that Spirit Bear spends a little time researching his coin with the information provided and isn't put off in any way, Romans are awesome coins if you take the time to learn a little about them and the history that surrounds them.

​Since you're so great, what are you doing on a forum open to all? Why are you not a professional numismatist? (You obviously aren't one. If you were, you wouldn't need to insult others.)

I have quoted you both time for all to see your arrogance and narcissism, in case you were to edit your messages.

To Ard: Thanks for your intervention, but since I was attacked publicly, I needed to reply publicly.