Ancient Rome (Constantine) and Massalia, and Vatical Papal State - Avignon

Dear Colleagues

I would like to add a couple of nice coins into our catalogue to make our Numista brighter :)
But this Countries/Territories are not added into Numista yet and I need your help here.

1) I have a nice example of coin from old Greek city colony - Massalia (now it is Marseille city there) :)

Massalia - 1 hemiobol KM# unknown
Obv.:Bust Apollon right
Rev.:Bull butting, MAZZA above, E.T. below
Known similar catalogue indicated coin from SNG Cop 809-817

It is visible in Numista that Massalia exists as Gaul territory. Or it should be as Greek (Ancient)?
If still Gaul - please let me know and I will add that. Also if possible - help me with reference # - what catalogue gives # for that? If possible - tell me exact #. I suppose Krause is not going so deep in ages :)

2) Ancient Rome coin of one of 3 variants - Constantine I, Constans or Constantine II (the most possible IMHO).

May be not ideal photos, but CONSTAN is pretty visible to the left of emperor's head.
If so, please let me know if I can add that under that section - Rome (ancient) - The Constantinian Era (337-363) or not. OK?
As previously I would be absolutely happy to get any Reference # here to catalogize that :)

3) Also pretty interesting moment
It is pretty identified Coin from Papal State:
Italy (Avignon - Papal State)1 patard date ND KM#41
Obv.:Crossed keys
Rev.:Cross in quadrilobe
Pope Urban VIII

This coin is already in Krause catalogue SCWC 1601-1700, 2nd edition (sorry if it is old version but this is what I have only). IN the section Vatican Papal City States.
In Numista there is no such currency created as Patard under Avignon - Italian states.
Or may be better create separate Papal States as Krause catalogue really sort that?? I think it is better not as Italian state but as new Vatican Papal City States. And add there all currely existing in Numista coins.

p.s. if needed - I can do supermacro photos for all 3 coins for better referrence and vizualization.

What do you think?
Thanks

1) Your first coin is most likely this (and could be added under Ancient Greece):
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=61

2) Your second coin has deteriorated too far for it to be properly identified.


3) Your third coin appears to be a Patard from Papal States - Avignon, but I'm not sure it's KM41 (it could be KM 1, 21, 30, 41, 67, 73, or 86).

Hi Steve!

Thanks for the reply. About 1) - the link on FAC is not working - no image there = please double check.
You mean this one?
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=0
2) It is just constantine coin and for me it is more or less enough in this case (I dont collect Roman coins, I got that by occasion). I was just wondering if it can be added somehow in numista.
3) It is definitely Urban VIII - I checked very carefully Pope's typical signs appearing on coins like arms and etc in another , and this is Urban VIII. For him Krause mention only this type KM#41

Anyway - there are no Patard in Numista to be added. Please create new type so I can add at least this Papal coin.
As well, please create Massalia in Ancient Greek section so I can add 1 hemiobol there.

Thank you.

I can't open your link, so here's a picture of it:
MAΣΣA above the bull and ETO in exergue.

Thank you Steve. I think it is definitely.

Nº 2, I would suggest, is of the SPES REIPVBLICE type with, on the reverse, the emperor holding the globe of the Earth (or celestial globe?). The letters ...LICE can be read without any problem. In the exergue, CON..., so Constantinople. The only possibility seems to be Constantius II (obv.: DN CONSTAN...) and, therefore, possibly RIC VIII ## 149, 151, 153, or 155 (on p. 461).

Now I said "suggest" and then "possibly" because I am unsure of what is under the globe. If its a big "-X-" then perhaps I'm right; if it is some small personage, then not.

Cool!

Thank you for the suggestions:
What I would say - after carefull examination of coins I can confirm that it is stated to the left of Head - DN CONSTAN (which is indeed seems as Constantius II).
Under left leg (mean right if you look on coin, but left leg of the emperor himself :)) it is readable ... OM...

Under globe I dont see any small figure.

Please can you let me know what is this catalogue RIC VIII and how I can check this page 461 you mean?

Under the standing emperor (i.e. in the exergue) you should be able to read CON...

RIC VIII is Roman Imperial Coinage, volume VIII, which is for the period 337-364 (i.e. after the death of Constantine and until the end of Julian's short reign. After him a new dynasty took over.

Below the globe there seems to be something, but I'm not sure what. Since it is most likely that the emperor is Constantius II, I suggest to scroll down through his coins in the Wildwinds page.

The only one I found by a search of the numbers I gave you earlier is RIC VIII 149, which is very similar to yours. Note that there are two RIC VIII 153, but they are for the mints of Rome and Antioch, not Constantinople. (Most unfortunately, the author of the work didn't think of adding an extra digit to differentiate the different mints.)

And have a look at this, at about the middle of the page, where you'll see this picture. Not exactly yours, but note what's under the globe...

Fantastic! What I would say. This is vital support!

This coin, based on the image of standing figure is quite similar to mine - http://www.lamoneta.it/topic/97367-romana-da-identificare-iovi-conservatori/
And you are right - it is CON not OM - I have read incorrectly - N is stuck there quite widely.
Now I will try to identify that as much as I can

DEAR MODERATORS / Referees - please create the countries by my request above - for Ancient Greek please create Massalia with currency - obol; for Vatican City Papal States please create Avignon as subsection with patard as a currency.

Thank you!