Tiny gold coin ID

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0.75g and 12mm across.
thanks in advance
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Why do you think it is gold?
It gives me the feeling of a belly dancers token, because the tekst mimics arabic writing.
http://www.sharifwear.com/belly-dance-coin-bra-belt-bedlah-sets/
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Murabitids (Almoravids) , Ishaq ibn 'Ali, 1145-1146, gold qirat (later jeweler's imitation, c. 18th-20th century, Morocco?). The calligraphy is a bit off but still legible. Compare this similar example (courtesy Zeno.ru):


https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=110743

With respect, the constant references in this forum to "belly dancer tokens" is demeaning to traditional cultures where gold and silver coins (and their imitations) have been sewn onto clothing and used in jewelry since ancient times. Vintage items of this class are much more likely to have adorned a Berber bride's headdress than a nightclub dancer's costume.
Цитата: "dltcoins"​​With respect, the constant references in this forum to "belly dancer tokens" is demeaning to traditional cultures where gold and silver coins (and their imitations) have been sewn onto clothing and used in jewelry since ancient times. Vintage items of this class are much more likely to have adorned a Berber bride's headdress than a nightclub dancer's costume.


To be fair, most of the ones posted on here seem to be fairly modern in design. Sometimes you can just tell looking at something that it is a cheap reproduction.

This was obviously a coin of some sort (thanks for the ID!) since it was not holed.​
"What we are is not as important as what we aren't"
Цитата: "dltcoins"
​With respect, the constant references in this forum to "belly dancer tokens" is demeaning to traditional cultures where gold and silver coins (and their imitations) have been sewn onto clothing and used in jewelry since ancient times. Vintage items of this class are much more likely to have adorned a Berber bride's headdress than a nightclub dancer's costume.
​I've never seen anyone relating belly dancers to a nightclub dancer here. I tend to bounce around what to call the modern coins they use, they are coins but not currency. Tokens by definition are representations (which by that definition almost all modern money is, since it represents a fictional amount of gold/silver/whathaveyou). Since we call them coin belts and the like I tend to stick with the word "coin" but I've never had a problem with someone using a synonym. It's just a fact that these days most modern belly dancers, no matter how traditional, will have costumes with reproductions or inspired fantasy coins. I've certainly seen these pop up in coin lots and I would say that the fact that we keep seeing them here just shows that there's little disrespect meant. And I see the members here simply calling it what it is.

All of that said, if you have a better suggestion I'm definitely open. I do like hearing about differences in cultural preference.
Цитата: "dltcoins"​​With respect, the constant references in this forum to "belly dancer tokens" is demeaning to traditional cultures where gold and silver coins (and their imitations) have been sewn onto clothing and used in jewelry since ancient times. Vintage items of this class are much more likely to have adorned a Berber bride's headdress than a nightclub dancer's costume.


​Ok, I am wrong this time. The writing does look strange. But you are correct.
I am very sorry!!!z)
Thanks for correcting me, you made me learn something new. I did not knew this coins.
Since it is real: very nice coin!
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Many thanks to all, turns out to be interesting after all.

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