What's your oldest coin in collection? (non-Roman Empire)

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What is the oldest coins you have, not counting the coins from Roman Empire nor provinces? Post some photos.
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Mine is Hungary - Denar- Bela II from 1131-1141

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Mine is English 4pence from 1683

1 Falus - Mahmud Shah bin Muhammad Dar al-Mulk (1393-1413)
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India, Pre-Mauryan Empire: Anonymous (ca. 500-400 BCE) AR Karshapana

Obv: 4 punches - elephant left with double crescent above, 5 crescents around annulets with dot in center, three fish swimming around annulet with pellets around
Rev: Blank

Ancient Greece, Sicily: Anonymous (415-375 BCE) Æ Hemilitron (HGC 2, 1480; SNG ANS 415 ff; SNG Cop 697 ff)

Obv: Signed by Euainetos (ΣY on band); Head of Arethusa left, wearing hair band and earrings, back of hair in sphendone; olive spray behind
Rev: Dolphin swimming right above, ΣYPA arched over inverted scallop shell below

Ancient China: Shou and Zhang Dynasty (18th-6th Century BCE) Cowrie Shells (Hartill-1.1)

Цитата: "Quant.Geek"Ancient China: Shou and Zhang Dynasty (18th-6th Century BCE) Cowrie Shells (Hartill-1.1)


wow :8D
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Mine is a Judean ½ Ma'ah-Obol that dates from 333 BCE to 302 BCE.
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Mine is Olbian dolphin. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces66365.html Older than my Roman Empire coin actually. :°

My own photos are here: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic59258.html It seems that nobody likes dolphins here. 8~
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Mine is a hemihekte from the city of Kyzikos minted sometime between 550-500BC.

Buying gold and electrum coins 700bc-1950ad
Цитата: "Roublizer"​Mine is a hemihekte from the city of Kyzikos minted sometime between 550-500BC.

​Is that a dolphin? <:D
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Цитата: "Jarcek"​Mine is Olbian dolphin. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces66365.html Older than my Roman Empire coin actually. :°

​My own photos are here: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic59258.html It seems that nobody likes dolphins here. 8~
​Haha, that coin is in my wish list :D Nice one:love:
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Цитата: "Jarcek"
Цитата: "Roublizer"​Mine is a hemihekte from the city of Kyzikos minted sometime between 550-500BC.
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​​Is that a dolphin? <:D
​Yes! Thats the main reason I bought it.
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Somebody likes dolphins!!! Yeeeees!! (8
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Yes. Type 'dolphin' as a shape in advanced search.. :)
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My oldest is from Ancient Greece - Bithynia
a Hemidrachm from Kios from about 350 to 300 BC

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Цитата: "apuking"​My oldest is from Ancient Greece - Bithynia
​a Hemidrachm from Kios from about 350 to 300 BC

​Very nice! :love:
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Цитата: "Quant.Geek"Ancient China: Shou and Zhang Dynasty (18th-6th Century BCE) Cowrie Shells (Hartill-1.1)


​How do you know that that was actually used as money, and not just some random shell somebody picked up at the shore, and sold it as ancient?
Цитата: "nthn"
Цитата: "Quant.Geek"Ancient China: Shou and Zhang Dynasty (18th-6th Century BCE) Cowrie Shells (Hartill-1.1)
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​​How do you know that that was actually used as money, and not just some random shell somebody picked up at the shore, and sold it as ancient?
​Great question! There are several reasons why it is authentic:

1) It was bought from a very reputable seller who is also a scholar in numismatics. He has written several books including one that is used by almost all dealers. I'll keep that person a secret

2) The shell was actually covered in dirt as it was a ground find. I cleaned it up prior to taking a picture

3) The back of the shell has been removed as was custom with these primitive money and you have the natural tanning of the shell itself, which indicates the age of the shell.

4) It is not worth the effort to randomly pick up these things, remove the backing and sell them as the effort is not worth the cost to sell. These are fairly cheap...
I was wondering about the same thing too. I reckon your attribution is sound but I wonder how long before some ethically challenged eBay sellers try listing a few sea shells as high dollar antiquities.

Along the same lines, I'm wondering if the TPG pirates would be willing to grade a sea shell?
Non illegitimis carborundum est.  Excellent advice for all coins.
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Mine are a 1703 Saxony 1/24 Thaler https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces98522.html (holed unfortunately) and a 1740 Austrian 1/4 Thaler https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces85412.html (intact).
And (changing the subject a little) I want to mention my oldest national coin, a 1813 20 Réis https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces23432.html (I also have 2 1757 coins but they're officially listed as Angola; they were worth on all Portuguese colonies).
Цитата: "pnightingale"​I was wondering about the same thing too. I reckon your attribution is sound but I wonder how long before some ethically challenged eBay sellers try listing a few sea shells as high dollar antiquities.

​Along the same lines, I'm wondering if the TPG pirates would be willing to grade a sea shell?
​I wouldn't worry too much about these cowrie shells. It is the imitation cowrie shells that you really want to worry about. Those are easier to fabricate and some of them are worth a pretty penny. I don't have any, but here are a few examples:

Bronze Cowrie Shell Imitation




Bone Cowrie Shell Imitation




Mother-of-Pearl Cowrie Shell Imitation




There are others in Jade, Gold, Quartz and other materials...
Sinope, Paphlagonia -- 1 drachm, 450-480BC:

Mine doesn't hold a light to many but I believe my oldest piece is 1674 India Copperoon.

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Ring with biconvex lenticular section (3000BC;50AD) :)


In the Bronze Age, in Gaul, the bronze coins of biconvex lenticular section were used. The Gauls threw them in mass during votive cults or before crossing a river. Production continued, but this currency disappeared with the Roman conquest.
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I have two answers on your question.

1) My oldest dated coin:
Ottoman Empire, 1 Akce, 1481 AD (886 AH)


2: My oldest undated coin:
Graeco-Bactrian Kingdom, Apollodotes I Soter, AR-Square Drachm, 160-150 BC
Цитата: "ngdawa"​Ottoman Empire, 1 Akce, 1481 AD (886 AH)
​I love it! I have 1 Akce - Suleiman I from 1520 AD, but not as good quality as yours :love:
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1568 England Elizabeth I 6 pence (4th issue) for me
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces52476.html
Цитата: "MihajloNesic"
Цитата: "ngdawa"​Ottoman Empire, 1 Akce, 1481 AD (886 AH)
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​​I love it! I have 1 Akce - Suleiman I from 1520 AD, but not as good quality as yours :love:
​cheers, mate! i'm glad my small diamond is being appreciated 0:)
maybe you could help me out if it's kastamonu or novo brdo mint? i think i just chose the first coin i saw with "886" in the year list when i added it :D but now i saw there were more.. :P
Цитата: "ngdawa"
Цитата: "MihajloNesic"

Цитата: "ngdawa"​Ottoman Empire, 1 Akce, 1481 AD (886 AH)
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​​​I love it! I have 1 Akce - Suleiman I from 1520 AD, but not as good quality as yours :love:
​​cheers, mate! i'm glad my small diamond is being appreciated 0:)
​maybe you could help me out if it's kastamonu or novo brdo mint? i think i just chose the first coin i saw with "886" in the year list when i added it :D but now i saw there were more.. :P
​I had some help identifying it.
You can try too!
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Цитата: "MihajloNesic"
Цитата: "ngdawa"

Цитата: "MihajloNesic"
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Цитата: "ngdawa"​Ottoman Empire, 1 Akce, 1481 AD (886 AH)
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​​​​I love it! I have 1 Akce - Suleiman I from 1520 AD, but not as good quality as yours :love:
​​​cheers, mate! i'm glad my small diamond is being appreciated 0:)
​​maybe you could help me out if it's kastamonu or novo brdo mint? i think i just chose the first coin i saw with "886" in the year list when i added it :D but now i saw there were more.. :P
​​I had some help identifying it.
​You can try too!
​thanks again, mate!
Цитата: "ngdawa"
Цитата: "MihajloNesic"

Цитата: "ngdawa"​Ottoman Empire, 1 Akce, 1481 AD (886 AH)
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​​​I love it! I have 1 Akce - Suleiman I from 1520 AD, but not as good quality as yours :love:
​​cheers, mate! i'm glad my small diamond is being appreciated 0:)
​maybe you could help me out if it's kastamonu or novo brdo mint? i think i just chose the first coin i saw with "886" in the year list when i added it :D but now i saw there were more.. :P
​Its Edirne mint
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces106419.html
If you like coins, medals and tokens with ship motives follow my new instagram account with regular updates @numisnautiker
From time to time I sell some coins on Ebay make sure to follow me @apuking on Ebay.
Цитата: "apuking"
Цитата: "ngdawa"

Цитата: "MihajloNesic"
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Цитата: "ngdawa"​Ottoman Empire, 1 Akce, 1481 AD (886 AH)
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​​​​I love it! I have 1 Akce - Suleiman I from 1520 AD, but not as good quality as yours :love:
​​​cheers, mate! i'm glad my small diamond is being appreciated 0:)
​​maybe you could help me out if it's kastamonu or novo brdo mint? i think i just chose the first coin i saw with "886" in the year list when i added it :D but now i saw there were more.. :P
​​Its Edirne mint
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces106419.html
​cheers, mate! :O
My oldest is 1692. German states, Brandenburg
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