Vietnamese Coin - real or not for 0.27 USD?

For 0.27 USD. Do you think it is real?
Coin: Minh Manh - 1 Van / Phan

If you need Chinese lettering: 明命通寶

Thanks,
SRL

Hello SRL,
I think the letters are Cantonese rather than Chinese B'cause Viet coins always had writing.

Цитата: "Subha Barua"​Hello SRL,
​I think the letters are Cantonese rather than Chinese B'cause Viet coins always had writing.

​Cantonese is a chinese language isn't it ?
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https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php
I don't know which variety is it and I can't say if this one is guenuine or not : most chinese replicas look very fine on picture for this type of coin, however this one doesn't look that rare, so I guess it's ok.

Цитата: "Cycnos"​

Цитата: "Subha Barua"​Hello SRL,
​​I think the letters are Cantonese rather than Chinese B'cause Viet coins always had writing.

​​Cantonese is a chinese language isn't it ?
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​It is not Chinese. It is a Vietnamese root of Chinese, used in Hong Kong and south eastern part of China.

Are sure it came from the vietnamese ?
I always thought the Cantonese came from "Canton" (the actual Guangzhou, in China) to name the language used in the south of China and the neighboring countries during the long occupation of the chinese in thoose areas.

I agree the Cantonese is different from the Mandarin who is another chinese language, but they share the same root : they both are sino-tibetan.

The Vietnamese language share few similtudes with the Cantonese because of the long chinese domination but it's much closer to the Khmer who came from a different branch.

Yes, just as you said. Something you said was very similar to mine whoch I said.

If you take a looks at 'old' chinese coins, they almost always are made look old with white gypsum....

I'm from Hong Kong, I can help.

CANTONESE is a language different from Putonghua. Putonghua is the language one would use in most parts of Mainland China, but Cantonese is one of the dialects. For the lettering, it is in Traditional Chinese (繁體字) rather than the new Simplified one (简体字)

Compare: 页 = 頁
鱼 = 魚

Simplified is made for the Chinese back when the literacy was low.

Thanks,
SRL

Vietnamese cash were made well into the 20th century. They were the last cash coins made. Chinese characters were used.

Back to the topic, is it real?

Go to your coin show and ask. I would guess someone there could discuss why a late date cheap Viet coin would be counterfeited. Are there Viet dealers that come to that show?

Looks real, but you need to get it confirmed by referring genuine catalogues as fake Chinese coins look almost like original ones. Always better to get an expert’s opinion!