3 Centesimi Napoleon I

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After hearing a lot about fake copper coins from China I would like to get your opinion on this coin. I am getting paranoid.
It is fake. The letters on the circle are too crooked. Just compare to the photos of real coin
My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor
Цитата: "Grinya"​It is fake. The letters on the circle are too crooked. Just compare to the photos of real coin
​I am not convinced. The more I compare it with pics of other examples in the internet, the more I get the feeling that it might be genuine as they all differ a lot.
100% real coin. These are known to have a zillion varieties as each detail was hand-punched into the die. For such a low-value coin (3-5 euro), there would be no reason for anyone to fake it (at least not in this condition). Nice coin!
Loruca
I collect anything: If it's Italian or Italian states i collect it even more!
OK, I'm not a specialist, but comparing to the other pictures it doesn't seem a real. Too primitive letters, too simple details (e.g. too simple denticles from the edge). Maybe this is a fake from the time of circulation?
I'd never buy it.

What about the size/weight?
My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor
https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=4021&category=105712&lot=3324140
https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=4021&category=105712&lot=3324138
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/409266-ITALIAN-STATES-KINGDOM-OF-NAPOLEON-Napoleon-I-3-Centesimi-1812-/201790451486
https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=2144&lot=1493
https://www.cgbfr.es/3-centesimi-1812-milan-vg-1380-sup,v18_1909,a.html
http://maxentius.lamoneta.it/PagineStatiItaliani/Napoleone.htm
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Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Цитата: "PetrusAscanus"https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=4021&category=105712&lot=3324140
https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=4021&category=105712&lot=3324138
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/409266-ITALIAN-STATES-KINGDOM-OF-NAPOLEON-Napoleon-I-3-Centesimi-1812-/201790451486
https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=2144&lot=1493
https://www.cgbfr.es/3-centesimi-1812-milan-vg-1380-sup,v18_1909,a.html
http://maxentius.lamoneta.it/PagineStatiItaliani/Napoleone.htm
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​comparing those pictures with my coins proves that the coin might be genuine... There are a lot of Varieties.
Can be genuine, can be fake, I dare not to give my opinion.
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Yes I know it is not easy. Size and weight is correct. When you visit this Chinese eBay webpage "alibaba" or what it is called, I get the feeling that there is no coin that is not subject to counterfeiting.

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