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Hello,
I´m sure I have
Licinius I
SOLI INVICTO COMITI
Rome (RS)
left: AX
But I can´t find my coin anywhere


Thanks for help
Peter
Type : Sol standing left, raising hand and holding globe.
R over X
Referee of south atlantic islands
Thanks for info.
On your pic is the mint RP. But I think I have RS?
Or are your eyes better than my eyes? ;-)
I didn't find RS in the RIC
But I'm not a specialist :D
Referee of south atlantic islands
R over X in left field and F in right field (below the globe) ; pictures are a bit blurry but it could well be RS for the second officina.

Your coin is indeed listed in RIC but on the next page ;) Have a look at RIC#30.

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Yes, on the real coin it´s more clear that it RS.
Just for beeing sure: RIC VII #30?
Yes, RIC VII#30. Various reverse caesura are known, yours seems to be the common one SOLIINV - I - CTOCOMITI.

Difference with RIC VII#29 comes from the bust: draped and cuirassed for #29, cuirassed only for #30.
Sapientiae plerumque stultitia est comes.
Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Where do you see RS on RIC#30 ? :snif:
Referee of south atlantic islands
Цитата: "Frenchlover"​Where do you see RS on RIC#30 ? :snif:
​ Above #27 line, you are given the generic mark (R over X...) where the mintmark is the exergue part. Then below you are given the officina varitions for each coin.

If you look at 4th column for #30, this means this coin was struck by officina P, S, T, Q and you will then find coins with mintmarks RP, RS, RT, RQ.
This means #31 was struck by 3rd officina only (T), #32 was struck by 2nd officina only (S), etc.
Sapientiae plerumque stultitia est comes.
Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Thank you
And to finish the lesson, what does mean the last column "Reference" : L for #30 - S
Referee of south atlantic islands
Цитата: "Frenchlover"what does mean the last column "Reference" : L for #30 - S
​The last column reference is equivalent to references used when you write a scientific book, thesis, article, paper, etc. and you cite references to support your research/work. Here, this column indicates a collection (mostly museum collections), a sale catalogue or a hoard reference, in which you can find the exact same coin, using abbreviations:
  • L stands for the British Museum collection in London
  • Ox stands for the Ashmolean Museum in Oxford
  • DH stands for the Delos Hoard
  • etc.

These abbreviations are also used in footnotes to detail some variants, emphasize differences, etc. You may have a look at beginning of book from page xxi to page xxv for complete list of abbreviations.

References are listed according to officina: meaning that 1st reference is for 1st officina listed on the line, 2nd reference is for 2nd officina listed on the line, etc. Sometimes you may also have one single reference despite having several officina, this means that a coin for each officina is listed in the collection mentioned.

Regarding #30 example we have officina P, S, T, Q and references Ox, L, Ox, L. This means that an exact same coin:
  • is listed in Ox collection (Ashmolean Museum) for officina P
  • is listed in L collection (British Museum) for officina S
  • is listed in Ox collection (Ashmolean Museum) for officina T
  • is listed in L collection (British Museum) for officina Q

Sometimes you may also have a mention like (Pl.X) after the abbreviation with X being a number, this indicates the plate at the end of the book where you can see the pictures of the coin.

Hope this helps :D
Sapientiae plerumque stultitia est comes.
Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Thank you very much. RIC books are difficults for a rookie :D
I also use the eRIC "the enceclopedia of Roman Imperial Coins" that lists all RIC coins and varieties.
I find it very interesting and easy to use. Do you know and use it ?
Referee of south atlantic islands
Now I know ;-)
This thread was extremly intersting. Thanks for the good questionsand the better answers!
Цитата: "Frenchlover"​Thank you very much. RIC books are difficults for a rookie :D
​I also use the eRIC "the enceclopedia of Roman Imperial Coins" that lists all RIC coins and varieties.
​I find it very interesting and easy to use. Do you know and use it ?
Indeed RIC can be tricky... even without being a rookie. (8

In a similar way, Cohen books are a nice reference but sometimes tricky regarding coin differentiation.

Yes, I know the ERIC. It's a nice reference, quite easy to use and allowing an easy find of combinations. I find it a bit less developed than RIC, specifically regarding comments/footnotes (variants, dies, etc.) but it definitely has way better pictures than RIC!!

If you guys have other questions, feel free to ask! I'll be glad to help if I can! :D
Sapientiae plerumque stultitia est comes.
Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
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