Byzantine trachies - are they identifiable?

Hello,
I have some Byzantine coins that need identification. Here are two of those and I’m wondering if they are identifiable...or not.

#1:



#2:



I took measurements but forgot where I wrote them down, so later, hopefully...

Hello,
For the second one, I think its the Aspron Trachy of Alexius III : https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces86045.html

I'm not sure about the first one. It gives me the impression of a later issue from the Latin or Thessalonic rulers but I could be wrong : Quant-Geek is much better than me for this coinage.

Thank you! I thought the second was harder to identify. I'll keep looking for similar coins but to be honest the Latin Empire was a blind spot...I'd only heard of it and didn't know they issued trachies too!