Are these Chinese cash coins listed on Numista?

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Hello,
I’m having trouble identifying these cash coins (who am I kidding, I always do) and I need some input. I can’t seem to find these exact types in the Numista catalog, at least, and I don’t think their Manchu text on the reverse has a match. Or do they?

#1:


• Kangxi

#2:


• Qianlong
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Hello,

The mint on the first one is boo-su, and it's a kind of boo chiowan for the 2nd one.
But in my opinion they are both fakes. The characters are strange and I don't know the way it's cast or struck gives me a bad feeling.
What metal is it ? It doesn't look like brass.
Hmm. Not sure exactly what metal, but I was just wondering if brass wears like this! If these are fakes, contemporary or not (if not modern, maybe a little later than contemporary), maybe they were made here in Japan? These were among the small lot of Kan’ei Tsūho I got a while ago, and my understanding is that these Chinese cash coins had been circulating (and imitated by “private mints”) in Japan for a long time, though it’s still strange as the usage of such coins must have been mostly discontinued by the 18th century...
Twopence a week, and jam every other day!
Twopence a week, and jam every other day!
Might be shimasens of some kind.
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​Here's the page on Numista for the second one:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1133.html

But I definitely agree about their authenticity; the first one is definitely a fake, because there were no cash coins minted at the Boo-su mint during the reign of Kangxi with the Manchu mintmark. What colour are they? If they're tin then they could be Malay contemporary imitations.
Interesting! Both coins are of dark-ish grey, with some traces of sandy colour here and there. Can't tell what metal they are but I feel like tin is definitely possible -- more than brass, at least.
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the sandy color is some kind of gypsum, added to make it look old.
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That sounds likely as well. Would that make them (fairly) modern fakes, though? Or was gypsum used that way in older (probably 18-19th c.) times too?
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The gypsum can be added after the casting, or it can be used in the molds....
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