very nice coin! | I didnot check if it exists in any catalog, but anyway, coin is beautiful, and it would be great if You give these images to Morocco admin to create a sheet for this type, or to add your images if coin exists already.
and,
Welcome to Numista !
best
David
Hello, thank you for your reply.
I have not found it in any catalog. 1283 and 1288 ones seem to be common.
How can I contact with Morocco admin? Sorry, but I am new in numista and I do not know how to do it.
Thank you.
Just click on the country then scroll to the bottom and you will see admin's name. Then you can cintact him.
Amer Salmeh is an admin for Morocco and most countries of North Africa which use Arabic.
yours
David
I'm no expert but it seem to me it is KM# 160a.2 Falus Sidi Mohammed IV, Fez mint: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces82593.html
There are some varieties of these coins as they were cast so slight differences are usual.
The 2 fals Fez looks EXACTLY like yours but slightly bigger and heavier.
Alex.
Hello, I am not an expert in this type of coin but I can not read Fas in my coin. I have compared to other 4 fals Marrakech coins and it fits.
Thanks, I have written to the Morocco admin and I am waiting his reply
I cannot read Arabic, but looking at Krause, the mintmark seems to be the one for Fez.
The catalog page photo for the 1 fals is not that great (what I think it's yours highlighted), but luckily the 2 fals is just beside it and it is remarkably similar to yours (except that it is bigger of course).
I happen to have some of these fals and the Marrakech ones seem to have the writing pointing upwards (right to left) as in this 4 falus example:
I hope you find which one is yours. I have many I was not able to fully identify due to varieties...
Best regards, Alex.
Thank you very much for your answers.
I have Krause book and photo is not good. I can not conclude anything.
I think Fas has an ‘aliph’ that I can not read in my coin. Marrakech 4 fals that you show only differs in the ending of the ’sin’ (upwards or downwards). Sorry for my English, it is a bit rusty.
According to Krause, all these dates are for Fes, and marrakesh has only 2 dates, 1 of them is rare
no pic on krause for marrakesh to help
does anyone has another source before we decide all these are for marrakesh and add many unlisted dates?
it is not Krause` classification, I guess, as it use "C" not " KM" , so " C" I think means other catalog, on which krause bases for Morocco coinage. LIke " Y"/
For me, Krause has made too many mistakes about this coinage to be trusfull.
The one fals denomination seems scarce under the rule of Sidi Mohammed IV and Marrakech seems to have produce less coins than Fes during this period.
However, contemporary imitations exist as well : both coins of the Marrakech mint we have have a wierd spelling for the mint name. If Krause listed two dates for this mint with the mention "rare", I guess they only heard one coin for each date.
So I'm wondering if Marrakech only minted a few amount of "1 fals" during this period or if those coins are just forgeries from this period.
As I already said, the "Corpus des monnaies alawites" by Daniel Eustache is the only relevant catalog I heard about for this kind of coins. I'm looking for it since few months but I couldn't find one on sell.
It's probably the only way to figure out.
Anyway, for me it can't be Fes here : the spelling is too different.
Hello, it is a cast coin, good weight and style is not worse than similar of 4 fals.
I think it is not a contemporary countefeit: this was not a fiduciary issue. It is a pure copper coin that had value for its metal content. It fits quite well in weight with a Fas fals coin.
I have heard about Eustache catalog but I have no access to it....
Thank you very much to everyone, David.
Yes, it's a beautiful coin; this one isn't mentioned in the Eustache catalog. It's a 1 fels Marrakech 1284, based on its weight of 2.8g.
The 1283 exists at Eustache (#1262) and the 2 fels 1284 too (#1264). A photo of a 1 fels 1283 in Yvon Méreaux's book (Volume 2) shows the same letter (on the right) from the beginning of Marrakech.
