Australia 2 Dollar Coins - highly suspect coin dated 1997 with obverse not used until 1998?

Well I am new to this "addiction" and I'm sorting through a mass of coins.
I came upon these two.
The left coin is highly suspect and the stamping is off centre on the face side. The obverse image was not used until 1998 as far as I can tell.
My weighing scales are not accurate enough to determine exact mass but the suspect coin appears to have a slightly greater mass than the other (a fraction of a gram) <=7g


your views please.

Does anyone collect suspect coinage, or know anyone who does?

The obverse of that design was first used in 1988.

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I don't see anything suspicious on your coin.
Concerning the weight, don't worry about that, there is always a tolerance. I remember a discussion a few years ago about the weight of a Sweden 5 Kroner coin. Look at the results:

Цитата: "Oklahoman"​The obverse of that design was first used in 1988.

​Thank you, I see that now. I think I must have number blindness!!
The coin is stamped off centre. Do you know if that's common?

The only thing suspect about the Australian $2 coins is they are smaller than their $1 coins...go figure

Here in the USA that coin would not be considered off enough to warrant an additional cost.

I think you need glasses tested. The 1997 has the Maklouf effigy used between 1985 and 1998 in Australia (Although $2 coins only started in 1988), the effigy (Ian Rank Broadley) on the later coin came in use in 1999 in Australia and most of the Commonwealth that still uses the Queens head on coins, but in 1998 in the UK.

The Jody Clark effigy has been used on UK coins since 2015, but nowhere else as far as I know (Possibly excluding British Overseas territories and Channel Islands).

The 1997 coin is 100% legit and worth 2 bonza fair dinkum Aussie dollars!

Цитата: "Moneytane"​I think you need glasses tested. The 1997 has the Maklouf effigy used between 1985 and 1998 in Australia (Although $2 coins only started in 1988), the effigy (Ian Rank Broadley) on the later coin came in use in 1999 in Australia and most of the Commonwealth that still uses the Queens head on coins, but in 1998 in the UK.
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​The Jody Clark effigy has been used on UK coins since 2015, but nowhere else as far as I know (Possibly excluding British Overseas territories and Channel Islands).
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​The 1997 coin is 100% legit and worth 2 bonza fair dinkum Aussie dollars!

​Agreed. Eye test is booked for April 1st.
Coin is definitely mis-stamped though. The border is noticeably mis aligned which is what first caught my eye.

Thanks any ways.

Time for my opinion ;), so i noodle/look through loads of Australian coins. I agree nothing special with this coin, and also the MAD slightly misaligned die for 2 dollar no premium as it happen very often on 2 dollars (like near 5% of 2 dollar coins, Royal Australian Mint don't seem to be concern with this), with other donations it happens less often and therefore has a slight premium in good grades.

Цитата: "neilithicman"​The only thing suspect about the Australian $2 coins is they are smaller than their $1 coins...go figure

​And what about those strange countries where the ten cent coin is smaller than the one cent coin?

Those tend to be made of different metals then.

Yes those tend to be a hangover from the days when the 1c coins were copper and the 10c coins were silver. Usually these days they've kept the coins the same size but changed the silver coins to cu-ni or steel.

There have indeed been fake Aus $2 coins.. Here is a link if anyone is interested http://www.vision.net.au/~pwood/jan07.htm

Цитата: "neilithicman"​The only thing suspect about the Australian $2 coins is they are smaller than their $1 coins...go figure

​They might be smaller but they are thicker and easier to identify. We use them all the time and I am glad the $2 is smaller because if it was bigger than the $1 coin my coin purse would weigh a ton. Our 50 cent coins are huge and if you have enough in your purse you could anchor a boat with them haha.

Cheers Mike

Yes, I was glad we switched to smaller coins in 2006 because ours were the same size as yours. Any more than a couple of dollars of silver coins in your wallet and you needed to get a reinforced belt to hold your trousers up.