German states?

Below find descriptions and digital images of 3 German States(?) coins. The coins appear similar in design but exhibit differences in inscriptions. The third coin appears poorly rendered with a good deal of the design and inscriptions missing. I will try to describe and capture the inscription or partial inscription of each item as well as weight and diameter.

1. Weight - 0.78 grams
Diameter - 15mm
Inscriptions: OBVERSE - CARL . ED . PR . FR . O.
REVERSE - IN DEO SPES MEA
OBVERSE - CROWNED EAGLE WINGS WIDELY SPREAD
REVERSE - DOUBLE CIRCLE ORB CROSS ABOVE



2. Weight - 0.88 grams
Diameter - 17.5mm
Inscriptions: OBVERSE - S(G?)EO: ALB: P: F: O: D(?): M(I,F,E?)
REVERSE - IN: DEO: SPE: ME(I?)A
OBVERSE - PARTIALLY ENCIRLED CROWNED EAGLE WINGS SPREAD
REVERSE - DOUBLE CIRCLE ORB CROSS ABOVE



3. Weight - 0.58 grams
Diameter - 16mm
Inscriptions: OBVERSE - ____O. E. D. P. O
REVERSE - . DA. PAC. DO. I______
OBVERSE - CROWNED EAGLE WINGS SPREAD, UNKNOWN DEVICE ABOVE
REVERSE - DOUBLE CIRCLE ORB CROSS ABOVE

APOLOGIES FOR THE SNAFU...INADVERTENTLY GAVE INCORRECT REVERSE DESCRIPTION OF COIN 3 AND NEGLECTED TO SUPPLY COIN 3 DIGITAL IMAGES.
BELOW FIND THE REVERSE DESCRIPTION OF COIN 3 AND ITS DIGITAL IMAGES.

3. REVERSE - SINGLE ORB WITH CROSS ABOVE. A NUMERAL '1' IS NOTED IN LOWER PART OF THE ORB (LIKELY THE VALUE OF THE COIN). AN '8'IS NOTED TO THE LEFT OF THE CROSS, A '6' TO RIGHT OF THE CROSS (LIKELY AN ABBREVIATION FOR 1686 OR 1786).

They are all from Ostfriesland, Eastern Friesland
the second seems to be this one https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4701096
the last one the date is likely to be 1586 with the Zainhaken symbol above the harpy

Many thanks apuking. Your attribution of the second coin is spot on. From the picture
on the Münz Zentrum Rheinland auction site:

EAST FRIESLAND

Obverse - Crowned harpy, partly enclosed in circle, with stars either side of neck and tail.
Inscription - GEO: ALB: P: F: O: D: E

Reverse - Orb w/cross above, partly enclosed in circle
Inscription - IN: DEO: SPE: MEA

A 1/4 stiver in billon from the reign of Count
Georg Albrecht, 1708-1734.

The one thing I can add is the Krause # - K148

I was able with your help to attribute the first coin as follows:

EAST FRIESLAND

K174 - 1/4 Stuber in billon from the reign of the last count of East Friesland Carl Edzard.

Obverse - Crowned harpy
Inscription - CARL. ED. PR. ER. O

Reverse - Circled orb, w/cross above
Inscription - IN DEO SPES MEA

I agree with you apuking, that all the coins can be attributed to East Friesland. Regrettably, due to crucial missing parts of the obverse inscription and my lack of skill and knowledge , I have been unable to fully attribute the last coin at this time. Perhaps another member may be able to help.

The third one is likely this coin here https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/german-states-east-friesland-witte-mb-75-1568-1586-cuid-175023-duid-392996
Witten stands for Weißer Pfennig (white pfennig) a name given for its colour appearance due to high silver content for such a low denomination coin.

apuking...I used the link provided to the NGC site. At first I thought that this might be the right coin. However, on further examination, I found problems.

Although the date, weight and the Zainhaken symbol (g) were in bounds, other parameters were not.

1. The description on the NGC site gives the metal as silver (NGC does not supply the fineness). I used a well known qualitative test for silver. This coin is not silver, IMHO. At best it could be billon (a Zinc/copper or other base metal alloy with a tiny amount of silver). But, when a rubbing was taken on a Basaltic stone and 18Kt gold testing acid applied, the rubbing completely disappeared. The rubbing appeared to my eye yellowish-red when first applied to the stone, as I would expect for copper. When the acid was applied the rubbing was gone with no trace. If silver were present (even in a small percentage) there would be some hint of a dull white residue left on the stone. If this coin were high quality silver the residue would appear as a strong blue-white.

2. The reverse legend supplied by NGC is DA. Pace.... This does not match the
DA. PAC. DO. etc., of the coin.

3. The obverse legend described by NGC mentions Edzard II and Johann titles. These titles have endings (d II, ann) that do not seem to fit with the CO. E. D. P. O abbreviations of the balance of the legend on the coin. Of course a digital image of the actual coin would solve these problems.

My conclusion is that this is not likely a Witte MB# 75.

Maybe this is a counterfeit with blundered legends or maybe, I am missing something obvious and have this all wrong. What is your take on my analysis. All comments welcome.

apuking...if you read this first, go to new post I have made. I have done additional research and found some information that I found useful.

In any event...many thanks for your insights and generous help with the three Ostfriesland coins. It is much appreciated.

lhnumis