20 Cent French indochina 1939- Replica? [решено]

Recently i purchased a few coins from an old numismatic and I have a little doubt with one.

Its this 20 Cent from French indochina; its weight does not match at all the one here in Numista:

5.7gr Mine vs 7gr Numista.

Something that i learned in my first post here in Numista, was that grainy texture in some coins is also an indicator of a posibe replica.



So my question is simple : bad weight + grainy texture = i have a replica or counterfait? Can i get an appraisement?

Thank you

I think I agree with you on both points.

edit , just back from browsing the ebay listings, there is at least one other cast copper fake for sale this morning.

I don't think there is any fake for this coin.
Grain referes to silver coins and this exemple doesn't get the standard weight

Цитата: "Frenchlover"​I don't think there is any fake for this coin.
​Grain referes to silver coins and this exemple doesn't get the standard weight

Didnt though about searching about weight in ebay or anywhere else I tryed out your idea and i did found more examples with a weight even lower than mine (examples 1, 2 and 3).

So could it be that its just a regular circulation issue that makes this coins weight less than they should?

There is no way Monnaie de Paris would issue underweight coins. A very circulated coin might loose 5% of its original weight. a coin worn down by 19% would be unreadable condition.

It is impossible that this coin was struck in Paris
your coin - look at the extra metal in the triangles.

here is another fake from ebay
there is a casting void.

same coin
sorry, this was not minted in Paris.

I think there are very many pot-metal alloy counterfeits of this coin.
Just my observation, sometimes i am wrong.

Hello,

I'm agree to you, this is a fake coin, just with the arguments you gave.

Best regards,

-kadzuma-

Well, this one its being interesting for me, didnt expect a coin with this sell values and an almost 15 millions mintage could be facked (despite the two characteristics that i mentioned at the start).

I guess @Mr.Midnight and @-kadzuma- are going to be right in the end. At least i didnt pay to much for it.

Will leave the post open a bit more in case someone else wants to say something.

I think all of these counterfeits were made in 1939-42 time period, when 20cents was a day's wage.
this happened in many places and many times in the world.
In a sense they are as interesting and historical as the real coins.

I'd suggest real coin having had a bad time in an acid bath.