Hungary 2001 BU Set

Hi
There is a coin set in 2001 in Hungary the quality BU, 7000, edition. In the 100 forint, the set pieces was not indicated for the other coins. For 5, 10, 20, 50 forints I could grudge the set. In Figures 1 and 2 forint pieces will not do.

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It seems that you do not get an answer.
What is the question?

 

My question is: Why can not the coins into the database?
At 1 and 2 forint is:
The list of years is complete and has been verified. Most requests to add new year entries are sent for the wrong coin type. If you are sure you own this coin with a date that is not listed here, you can ask to have it added through the forum and include a picture of your coin in your message.
The entering of the BU-sets is possible only in the other higher values.

Are these what you are looking for? They seem to have a 2001 proof and business strike listed
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1999.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1999.html

Is a BU set different?

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces807.html
At 100 forints, the BU-set with the issuance of 7,000 Mintage is given, not with the other nominal values. Why not?

That is a good question - I could not find that comment "In sets only" or the minatge of 7000 for the 100 Forint, on the NGC website. Perhaps whoever entered the coin sheet has a better source catalog

http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/WorldCoinPrices.aspx?category=28209&worldcoinid=140700

ok - the answer for this is simple yet might disappoint you.
facts are:
- we heavily rely on data from WC catalogs and user's entries
- WC catalogs do not list set issues separately if a year has also a circulation strike

example:
let's say a coin issue has the following issues produced like this

Цитата1990 150,000 In Sets only and coincards etc.
1990 1,000 Proof
1990 12,000,000  for Circulation (Business strikes)

while 1991 has
1991 150,000 In Sets only
1991 2,000 Proof

..

WC catalog would have it listed like this:

Цитата1990 12,150,000
1990 1,000 Proof
1991 150,000 In Sets
1991 2,000 Proof

you might notice that 1990 issue combines both circulation and set issues into one figure
while 1991 lists the set issues because no circulation issue was produced.

so... set issues for years that have circulation issues, too are only listed in the catalogs at the
end of each nation's list (separately as "Mint Sets" along with "Piedforts", "Patterns" etc.)

that makes it very hard for us to add set issues separately for each country and for each coin.
since
a) data in WC catalogs is often not very exact (I noticed this with Euro coinage sets)
b) a lot of coins need to be checked since these "mint sets" entries only list the KM# numbers included
in a set.

I already did this for Euro coins and a lot of Australian issues (I had reliable sources, and data from
the australian mint present). Adding this for all coins in the Numista database would take years.
this might be done however - sometimes in the future - if we have the catalog verified and completed
by 99% or so and other problems sorted out first. I don't think that this will get high priority anytime
soon. But I won't promise or negate anything. maybe someone will do this. I know that we already
discussed this in the team and thought it might not be neccessary soon since (un)circulated issues
and mint sets can be used together by adding coins to the "non-Proof" year entry and using the
UNC grade in Numista's coin-sheets & using a "personal comment" next to it to identify it for
yourself as a part of a mintset.

hope this helps

1) I totally agree with Makake77 and the team. There are more exciting priorities.

2) Bofried, you can still enter a personal comment, next to the coin saying "In set", to indicate that these are in the mint's set. --- earlier I have observed that Numista uses the term "In sets only" for coins, which are ONLY available in sets. I think it is a good practice, but:

3) Those coins in the 2001 mint set have NO difference (besides the condition), to the ones, I currently have in my pocket and will spend for lunch in a minute...

Thanks for the explanation Makake77 - that makes sense

I have no problem to enter the coins in the "normal" unc coins. I was just wondering, that was identified at 100 forints to the set and not the smaller values.

errm - to be honest - lots of issues might be commented
"In sets only" despite issues that have circulation strikes also are present.
you could call this my fault or just read the comment for that special year as "this entry
is meant for sets only".