3 kreuzer 1613 Solms-Lich. Philippus

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Cthusq1
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Please help to evaluate the coin.
I cannot find exactly this type of coinage.
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bjherbison
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I would call it Solms-Lich KM# 19. The listing says "Varieties exist", which often means variations in legends as well has die variations.

It's also the same general type as Saurma illustration 1154.
http://saurma.info/1/1154.htm
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also see:
https://www.ma-shops.com/brom/item.php?id=181029006
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Цитата: "numisquare"​also see:
​https://www.ma-shops.com/brom/item.php?id=181029006
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1613 with the inscription ​ERNEST I have seen many times.
And with the inscription Philippus I do not find 1613.
Other years of minting have these three cruisers.
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Cthusq1
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Цитата: "bjherbison"​I would call it Solms-Lich KM# 19. The listing says "Varieties exist", which often means variations in legends as well has die variations.
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​It's also the same general type as Saurma illustration 1154.
​http://saurma.info/1/1154.htm
​The same type of coinage as my coin in this catalog is numbered 1155, but there is no AU13 (1613).
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Cthusq1
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In a couple of days I will show it after restoration.
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There is no AU13 (1613) year of minting here.
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Maybe it is from Solms-Heruletz?
KM#4 or KM#6.1 ?
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Цитата: "krezga"​Maybe it is from Solms-Heruletz?
​KM#4 or KM#6.1 ?
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​I think you found it. Craig's Germanic Coinages lists Philip II ruling from 1590-1631 in Solms-Horolecz.
Cthusq1
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After restoration
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Cthusq1
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Цитата: "numisquare"​
Цитата: "krezga"​Maybe it is from Solms-Heruletz?
​​KM#4 or KM#6.1 ?
​​
​​I think you found it. Craig's Germanic Coinages lists Philip II ruling from 1590-1631 in Solms-Horolecz.
​Could it be that my coin is not listed in the catalog? Because it has an AU13 date.
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not rare for Krause to have years missing.
One coin exists in Krause with the year (16)13 (Meaning only 13 on the coin) but as a Klippe, which this piece of course is not.
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/german-states-solms-lich-3-kreuzer-km-20-1613-cuid-1171345-duid-1391534

I think I even have a book on coins from Solms but cannot find it at the moment.
If you like coins, medals and tokens with ship motives follow my new instagram account with regular updates @numisnautiker
From time to time I sell some coins on Ebay make sure to follow me @apuking on Ebay.
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Here is one that has a (16)14 date that is not listed in Krause. It is not unusual for Krause to miss some of these.
https://www.ma-shops.com/knopik/item.php?id=170405006
Cthusq1
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Цитата: "numisquare"​Here is one that has a (16)14 date that is not listed in Krause. It is not unusual for Krause to miss some of these.
​https://www.ma-shops.com/knopik/item.php?id=170405006
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​I do not consider Krause a good catalog for European coins, everything is very general and not accurate.
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Cthusq1
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Цитата: "apuking"​not rare for Krause to have years missing.
​One coin exists in Krause with the year (16)13 (Meaning only 13 on the coin) but as a Klippe, which this piece of course is not.
​https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/german-states-solms-lich-3-kreuzer-km-20-1613-cuid-1171345-duid-1391534
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​I think I even have a book on coins from Solms but cannot find it at the moment.
​If you find, I will be very grateful, especially the page with this coin.
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