Juliana silver guilden

Due to the high value of silver in the past, an unknown number of Juliana silver guildens were melted.
In other words the original mintage numbers teach us how much coins were minted, but I have no idea how many coins survived the big meltdown.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces737.html

Is someone outthere who can help me on this?

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Logically this is an unanswerable question. Try looking at the grading services. They track the number of coins submitted and what grade they were given. If you compare known numbers of coins and the number graded you might get an estimate for the coin you are interested in but there are so many other variables involved I would not put too much confidence in it.
At a local fair in my city I found a jeweller who was making rings from old coins. You cannot account for this type of loss easily.
I bet the number of Numista members who have the coin will lead to a good estimate of the number of coins that exist. We have a very high number of collectors and from all around the world.
This would be a good thesis for a grad student in numismatics or statistics.

Цитата: "ThePoet"​Logically this is an unanswerable question. Try looking at the grading services. They track the number of coins submitted and what grade they were given. If you compare known numbers of coins and the number graded you might get an estimate for the coin you are interested in but there are so many other variables involved I would not put too much confidence in it.
​At a local fair in my city I found a jeweller who was making rings from old coins. You cannot account for this type of loss easily.
​I bet the number of Numista members who have the coin will lead to a good estimate of the number of coins that exist. We have a very high number of collectors and from all around the world.
​This would be a good thesis for a grad student in numismatics or statistics.

​Do you think we would be a reliable source though?

The question is an interesting one, but something for a statistician.

I have raised the idea on the Forum before, but coins, just like radioactive materials or traces of medicine in an organism, have a half-life cycle. Every whatever period, half of the specimens of a coin will have dissapeared.

But I don't think this is a gradual process. Demonetization of a coin is likely to be a peak destruction moment, and for silver coins, indeed a high silver price may speed up the process.

But for the Juliana guilders, I don't think that we will shortly see supplies of them going down. When the silver guilders were replaced by the nickel ones, many people started hoarding them, and till this day, you can buy them in bulk lots by the hundreds on places like Marktplaats.nl:
https://www.marktplaats.nl/l/postzegels-en-munten/q/gulden+zilver+juliana/

Цитата: "ArnoV"​The question is an interesting one, but something for a statistician.
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​I have raised the idea on the Forum before, but coins, just like radioactive materials or traces of medicine in an organism, have a half-life cycle. Every whatever period, half of the specimens of a coin will have dissapeared.
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​But I don't think this is a gradual process. Demonetization of a coin is likely to be a peak destruction moment, and for silver coins, indeed a high silver price may speed up the process.
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​But for the Juliana guilders, I don't think that we will shortly see supplies of them going down. When the silver guilders were replaced by the nickel ones, many people started hoarding them, and till this day, you can buy them in bulk lots by the hundreds on places like Marktplaats.nl:
​https://www.marktplaats.nl/l/postzegels-en-munten/q/gulden+zilver+juliana/
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​Thank you Arno, as a matter of fact I just bought 3 of those silver guildens on marktplaats.nl
It's definately a good source to fill the gaps.

It should be possible to compare the mintages and ownerships rates of the last silver gulden and the first nickel gulden, and draw conclusions from that

Цитата: "Cerulean"​It should be possible to compare the mintages and ownerships rates of the last silver gulden and the first nickel gulden, and draw conclusions from that

​It's an interesting idea. Thank you.