Цитата: "Limbru"Thanks Ivan,
I knew it would be hard to id them and I only paid 1$ each with the main goal of having an idea of what they were and giving them away, among others, to the guy who introduced me to Numista :-)
Hi have a nice day.
You evaluated it correctly , however, I would not lose hope of saving the second coin in a row.
In my opinion, everything can be found out, there is the potential to read the name of the mint. In this case, the quality and gentle cleaning from corrosion and deposits is exceptional -to identify and historically preserve ancestral heritage.
The second coin is and I state this quite exceptionally from an archaeological point of view it can be saved -and identified place of minting and its entire history.
when cleaned and properly preserved, it will make you happy even if it has the label "cleaned"
And don't make illusions -those fools who claim that the coins are not cleaned, those fools who claim that the coins are not cleaned.
Save her! The reward will be that you get to the numismatic sky!
Ahoj Ivan